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Post Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:47 pm 
 

Vinnie Barnes?


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:03 pm 
 

It was Benny Barnes:

Quite naturally, there were three versions of what happened on the controversial interference call on Barnes.

Barnes: "He [Swann] shoved me, knocked me down and tripped over me. When I saw the flag, I was mad, damn right. It was the closest I'll ever come to punching an official, I guess. I cussed him. I think he must have known he was wrong, because normally when you cuss an official, you get penalized.

Swearingen: "It was a judgment call. The two players bumped before the ball was even close to them. They were both looking back and the defender went on the ground. The Pittsburgh receiver, in trying to get the ball, was tripped by the defender's feet."

Swann: "I believe Barnes did interfere. But I'm not so sure, because I wasn't in a position to see. I know I didn't push off of him, and I was tripped. It was a very important play. If we hadn't scored right after that, we'd be in the locker room right now, and the Cowboys would be doing all of the interviews."


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:25 pm 
 

I wouldn't know who it was or what actually happened, I was only 6 years old when the Steelers won thier 4th Super Bowl.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:49 am 
 

Swann "isn't sure."

This is an excellent example of an official forming a picture of what was supposed to happen and making a call based on that.  Swann was supposed to catch the ball and win the game...therefore, the fact that he did not could only be explained if Barnes interfered with him.

Swearingen: "It was a judgment call. The two players bumped before the ball was even close to them. They were both looking back and the defender went on the ground. The Pittsburgh receiver, in trying to get the ball, was tripped by the defender's feet."

You will note that Swearingen admits that his call was wrong:  "They were both looking back"..."bumped before the ball was even close." This is the definition of incidental contact.  In football talk, Barnes "had position."

The only thing that mitigates in Swearingen's favor was that in those days the NFL often allowed the offensive player much more leeway in making illegal contact.  Today, the call would have gone the other way almost for sure.

For a good example, TIVO back to Keyshawn Johnson's offensive pass interference call in tonight's Carolina/philadelphia game.

Swearingen's call decided the Super Bowl...except for that dropped gimme pass, etc....

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:06 am 
 

Maybe he (Grammatica) was praying he wouldn't rip up his ACL (MCL?) celebrating, like one of his brothers (??) did in the same stadium a few years ago, celebrating a field goal in the middle of the game--put him out for the season!!

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:20 am 
 

His brother should have prayed harder and celebrated less.  :D


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:26 am 
 

notquitekarpov wrote:Realistically only England can lose from the positions as at the end of day 4 - thru a first session Warne-induced batting collapse. We are what 97 ahead? We need to bat out to lunch - say another 100 or so for a couple of wickets but by then there is no realistic chance of bowling Australia out in two sessions without Monty.


Oh my god....  8O  :cry:

Sorry Al - it seems I may have brought a hex down on our side with my comment above.

What happens on the last day - we manage to lose our last nine wickets for just 60 runs with Warne taking 4-49 but the match was not so much won by Warne as lost by some terrible shot selection by batsmen who should know better.  :roll:

Have to say I was surprised at the time when we declared the first innings. The pitch was a pudding - we should have batted on and on past 700 and put the last day pressure on the Aussies.

I cannot believe what has happened - sorry cannot type more right now. To come back from this psychologically will take a miracle.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:53 am 
 

well you know what, i just dunno what to say to that.

pathetic sums it up and well they got what they deserved. total respect to the oz lads for pushing the advantage, but lets face it, it wasnt australia pushing to win, it was england f*cking things up to lose.

all that effort for nothing.

better get ready, i will await the call up for the next test.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:21 am 
 

WTFFFFFFFFFFF! 8O  8O  8O

Sorry guys.........and I didn't get to see any of it!

Even the wife was playing with the remote when the sport came on the news - so not even a sound bite :(

I'm going to have to wait up tonight to try and catch it on the late, late sports program.

Warnie bowled well, but he's a very naughty boy (with plenty of photos around to prove it) so he can't be the messiah.

Great result for us, can't believe the crumble. :cry:

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:05 am 
 

Apparently there were two horses running today at obscure National Hunt meetings in England.

Warne's Way - won at good odds!

Flintoff - came in second, leading into the final straight, weakened two furlongs out.

:D  I'm not making this up if Five Live are to be believed - goes off to do some googling....


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:41 am 
 

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I believe the wizard logo actually appears before Dec 78

Why:
Players Handbook 1st (6?/78) Has Wizard Logo on Cover (most likely before 7/78 since Gamma World in product list debut at Origins in July)

D1 Descent into the Depths of the Earth 1st (8?/78) (Debuted at GenCon August 1978)
D2 Shrine of the Kuo-Toa 1st (8?/78) (Debuted at GenCon August 1978)
D3 Vault of the Drow 1st (8?/78) (Debuted at GenCon August 1978)
((All 3 D mods have Wizard Logo))

Gamma World 2nd (8/78) Has Wizard Logo

Basic Rulebook 4th-6th 2nd Edition (11/78) Has Wizard Logo on Rulebook Cover

B1 In Search of the Unknown 1st (11/78) Has Wizard Logo on Cover

Dragon 17 (Aug 1978) Wizard logo first appears ((Dragon 16 July 1978 Lizard logo appears))

So am I wrong to assume the Wizard Logo starts Aug 1978, and do we know if the Lizard Logo ends in Dec 1978 or could it be July 1978 (need to check my supplement booklets on this though)?

If anyone has 1st prints of the G mods and D mods I'd be appreciative if you could send me clear scans/photos of the product lists, same with Gamma World 1st print.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:39 pm 
 

Seems like I read someone was looking for ceramic cups/mugs:

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:58 pm 
 

No school tomorrow...the last day before Christmas break!  High winds are zapping the Northwest.  Amazing that we still have power at my keep.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:05 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:No school tomorrow...the last day before Christmas break!  High winds are zapping the Northwest.  Amazing that we still have power at my keep.

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Just watching the news, about the lost Oregon mountain climbers (two are from Dallas I believe).  The said the winds are hurricane like in Oregon, sounds like you are getting a lot of that even farther north. Can't be good for those guys wherever they are lost on Mt Hood.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:31 pm 
 

I know it can happen anywhere, but I grew up in the shadow of Mount Hood and Mount St. Helens (both visible from much of Portland).  I can never figure out how you get "lost" up there.  

I realize there's more to it, but "down" would always seem a good option for getting off a mountain.   :?

I guess you have to balance that with the appearance of the woods around my keep.  The forest looks like it has been lashed into submission over the past several weeks.  Trees are down all over the area, including some that just missed our walls.  :(

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:49 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:I realize there's more to it, but "down" would always seem a good option for getting off a mountain.   :?

I once went on a walk-around-Rainier-for-a-few-hours tourist hike, and I was glad that I had trails to follow.  Without them I had no idea what was around me other than snow and rocks.  Yes, "Down" is a good option, but not if you are heading in the wrong direction and can't tell what the correct direction is.

When I lived in Seattle, hikers seemed to get lost every year when the snow fell.  I'm sure the view/challenge/experience is worth the risks for some people, but I prefer to be warm and inside when snow is in the forecast.

Maybe all hikers should be required to play that 3M "Outdoor Survival" game.  :)

  

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:49 pm 
 

I wonder if they were carrying a compass. Seems to me, that in this age of everything GPS, they might have omitted that piece of equipment.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:08 pm 
 

Anybody watch the Sci Fi movie (Saturday night) called Dead and Deader or something like that. It was their weekly new movie.

Anyway, was that really Dean Cain??? He looked like sh*t. I swear he put on about 50lbs.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:44 pm 
 

Dean Cain has been stuck doing B movies.  Might as well eat.  :?

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:52 am 
 

Just had an eBay sale on a lot of old my old Starlog magazines Issues 1-16 to a buyer in Italy. They bid without asking shipping costs.
After packing items and getting weight, box dimensions etc. I sent the invoice to the buyer in Italy filippo2696 with a shipping cost of $32.00 US through Canada Post for a 2.5 kg package.

I got back the following.
thanks for your reply. before sending payment, i would like to ask you a little favour. i already have issues #12, #14 and #15. would it be possible for you to take out of the lot these 3 issues and do a little discount to me??
maybe on the lot price, or maybe on the shipping cost.
please let me know.
with 3 issues less, the package should weight less, and should cost less, i think.


To which I replied:
I listed these items as a lot to avoid having to list them individually. I also made it clear in the listing details that international bidders should inquire about shipping costs.
Sorry, I am not going to break up this lot.


And just received this reply:
Wow!! ok, i understand it's so difficult and fatiguing to take 3 magazines out of the bunch and make a little discount. you are so kind!
payment will be via paypal on  thursday.


At the moment I am so F*%*&g mad that I don't trust myself to reply to the person. At the same time I am thinking that if I do receive their payment and ship the package that they will just chargeback on their creditcard and I'll be out of the shipping costs and items. To be fair the person has good feedback, but the attitude that they show in their last reply kind of throws me off.

As an eBay seller is there any options that I have to back out of the transaction?

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