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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:25 am 
 

An (Australian) ebay auction  
** expired/removed eBay auction **
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offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBid ... :MEWA:BIDN

Here's ebay's msg.

As the internet evolves, eBay continues to strike a balance between preserving transparency and protecting our Community of members. eBay has decided to change how bid history information is displayed so bad guys cannot target bidders with fake offers using this information. In certain cases, some bidders will no longer be able to view Bidder User IDs on the Bid History page. Your User ID will be shown only to you and the seller of the item you're bidding on. Other members will see an anonymous name, such as Bidder 1, applied consistently to the Bid History page.

This seems vague. Anyone know what 'fake offers' ebay is talking about?
How about the 'certain cases, some bidders' part?  :(

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:07 am 
 

brute wrote:An (Australian) ebay auction  
** expired/removed eBay auction **
just ended. The bid history has the bidder1, bidder2, etc.

offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBid ... :MEWA:BIDN

Here's ebay's msg.

As the internet evolves, eBay continues to strike a balance between preserving transparency and protecting our Community of members. eBay has decided to change how bid history information is displayed so bad guys cannot target bidders with fake offers using this information. In certain cases, some bidders will no longer be able to view Bidder User IDs on the Bid History page. Your User ID will be shown only to you and the seller of the item you're bidding on. Other members will see an anonymous name, such as Bidder 1, applied consistently to the Bid History page.

This seems vague. Anyone know what 'fake offers' ebay is talking about?
How about the 'certain cases, some bidders' part?  :(

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We actually discussed this a few days ago here:

protecting the bidders from the fraudsters.

That said, what ebay is trying to pass of as protection for buyers is actually a load of bullocks as our UK friends say.  A lot of times when an auction goes for large amounts on Ebay, no matter what it is, several of the high bid runner up bidder receive an influx of fake second chance offers from third parties phishing to steal money from them by claiming that they are the seller and that they have more than one of the item that they can sell.  Now second chance offers can be legitimate, but anyone with half a brain can immediately determine what the real ones are versus the fake ones are.   Since Ebay is so greedy and they are unwilling to do away with second chance offers(of which I could write a book about why they won't do away with them, but I will spare you that), they are implementing this change under the guise of "protecting their bidders".  As evidenced by the tread we discussed this earlier, you can see that just about everyone is totally against this practice as it will invite sellers to now shill thier auctions with almost impunity as the community itself will be unable to determine fully who is bidding on what. :roll:   That pf course is another story all in itself as you can tell by own and others comments within that thread.


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:11 am 
 

AdderMcOne wrote:Al,

Things are looking a lot rosier for you in the second test.

Great first innings, and we're off to a very shaky start with one wicket gone already. :cry:


hey bren

day 3 seems to have evened matters out now. though i am happier with a much better england performance, it now makes for a better game, though i think it will play out to a draw imo, unless something incredibly dramatic happens.

i just wish our bowlers would sort themselves out. hoggard looked totally unplayable at times and i wish the others would take heed and follow his example.

still, prb just about evens now i think - enjoyable to watch though!

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:26 am 
 

Plaag wrote:How does one make the [b]cent[/c] sign for html or word programs?

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:41 pm 
 

Thanks! Unfortunately, I do not see a silver lining with this impending change. I agree that this appears to be a greed driven policy. Shouldn't buyers and sellers take it upon themselves to make sure they aren't being phished or whatever. I don't need an ebay nanny, and makes ebay smell more like those seedier auction / 'estate sale' guys. Alas, now I may wonder if I'm being shilled every time I use their site, much more than before.

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:39 pm 
 

:x  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:

Arrrrgghhhh!!!

A pox on Jerry Jones for bringing the plague that is Terrell Owens to the Cowboys.  Why is it so difficult for him to hold on to the damn ball?  They booted Mike Vanderjagt off the team for inconsistency, I think they should do the same to Owens.  He is by far the biggest (insert any suitable derogatory noun here) ever to play the game in my humble opinion.

He and Jeremy Shockey should start their own game show....Who Wants to Date an Asshole?
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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:48 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote::x  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:

Arrrrgghhhh!!!

A pox on Jerry Jones for bringing the plague that is Terrell Owens to the Cowboys.  Why is it so difficult for him to hold on to the damn ball?  They booted Mike Vanderjagt off the team for inconsistency, I think they should do the same to Owens.  He is by far the biggest (insert any suitable derogatory noun here) ever to play the game in my humble opinion.

He and Jeremy Shockey should start their own game show....Who Wants to Date an Asshole?
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13-13..Dallas still has a shot and Martin Gramatica is 2 out of 3 for not kicking a FG in years..pretty good (May come down to him making a winning FG)

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:22 pm 
 

3 out of 4  :D

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:23 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:
13-13..Dallas still has a shot and Martin Gramatica is 2 out of 3 for not kicking a FG in years..pretty good (May come down to him making a winning FG)

Here's hoping Dallas wins any way they can..

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:15 pm 
 

Hey, and the Stealers won against Tampa Bay!  They're in the playoff hunt, right?  :oops:

Go Cowboys!

I did not think I would see a Parcells Superbowl team in Dallas...but maybe now...?

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:20 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Hey, and the Stealers won against Tampa Bay!  They're in the playoff hunt, right?  :oops:

Go Cowboys!

I did not think I would see a Parcells Superbowl team in Dallas...but maybe now...?

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:26 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Hey, and the Stealers won against Tampa Bay!  They're in the playoff hunt, right?  :oops:


I was actually going to say yes, but then I remembered that we actually play in the AFC and not the NFC. :roll:   If the Eagles beat the Panthers tommorow night there is going to be a grand total of 4 teams in the NFC with a winning record, 4 after 12 weeks.  Even if the Eagles lose, there is still only going to be a total of 5, not exactly setting the world on fire over there are you guys.  Going into tonights Denver/Seattle game the AFC record versus NFC this year through week 12 is 35-20, a .636 winning percentage.


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:52 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:
I was actually going to say yes, but then I remembered that we actually play in the AFC and not the NFC. :roll:   If the Eagles beat the Panthers tommorow night there is going to be a grand total of 4 teams in the NFC with a winning record, 4 after 12 weeks.  Even if the Eagles lose, there is still only going to be a total of 5, not exactly setting the world on fire over there are you guys.  Going into tonights Denver/Seattle game the AFC record versus NFC this year through week 12 is 35-20, a .636 winning percentage.


Yeah, yeah..we had the AFC in the 80's, 90's...seems fitting that they have a shot at taking some superbowls now.

All I know is the Packers aren't in the hunt, but as long as Chicago doesn't make it to the Superbowl I'll be happy :wink:
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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:08 pm 
 

The Stealers' win doesn't play well in the NW.

Pointing out that they did not win is hardly whining.  Simply stating a fact.

If the same calls had happened to the Steal-ers, we would still be hearing about it....but that wouldn't have happened, because the story of the game was "Bill Cowher and Jerome Bettis finally get their Super Bowl,"  and it clearly influenced the officiating.

That's OK...reality is what it is...but let's not pretend that the Stealers won straight up.


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MShipley88 wrote:The Stealers' win doesn't play well in the NW.

Pointing out that they did not win is hardly whining.  Simply stating a fact.

If the same calls had happened to the Steal-ers, we would still be hearing about it....but that wouldn't have happened, because the story of the game was "Bill Cowher and Jerome Bettis finally get their Super Bowl,"  and it clearly influenced the officiating.

That's OK...reality is what it is...but let's not pretend that the Stealers won straight up.


You are kidding right, the better team won, period.  Just because people in Seattle don;t acknowledge it doesn't mean anything either.  You all really need to just get over it.  Since you bring it up though, and since everyone up in the NW seems to like to forget about the blown calls that went agaonst the Steelers, lets take a look at the "clearly influenced" officating from a neutral third parties perspective.  From:

Super Bowl XL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gregg Easterbrook of NFL.com wrote:Four of the six big officiating decisions went against Seattle. Does this mean a pro-Steelers bias, as some in the sports yak world are saying, or perhaps a slap at Mike Holmgren by the officiating guild? ... The two decisions that favored the Hawks were the fourth-quarter replay reversal that gave possession, initially awarded to Pittsburgh, back to Seattle; and the no-call of a block in the back by Seattle during Kelly Herndon's record interception return. Of the four big decisions that favored the Steelers, two seemed correct to me.


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:39 pm 
 

The only reason you think the Stealers were a better team is because you are from the East (East of Wyoming is East from the perspective of the West).

The Seahawks are nearly invisible on the national level, otherwise you would be aware that the Seahawks smashed their way to the Super Bowl with the league's best offensive line and a great defense.  It was no fluke.

Of the game itself:

1)  Darrel Jackson was not a big enough star.  Any big name receiver gets the touchdown.  It was not possible for the Seahawks to strike so hard so soon...therefore they did not.  The play was a touchdown.

2)  The holding penalty that kept the Seahawks away from the end zone simply did not happen.  The officials were expecting "The Vaunted Steelers Defense" to rise up and get a sack.  When that did not happen, the reason had to be a holding penalty.  Nothing else could have explained why "The Vaunted Steelers' Defense" did not stop the Seahawks.

3)  I don't care as much about the Roethlisberger touchdown-that-never-happened.  Maybe the Steelers would have scored on the next play.  The fact is, the officials made the call because the story of the play was "Big Ben Roethlisberger" powers into the endzone.  That's what they expected and that's what they saw.  The idea that "Big Ben Roethlisberger" did not get into the end zone was simply unthinkable.

The Steelers themselves were almost rooked out of the Super Bowl against Indianapolis when the MOST OBVIOUS INTERCEPTION IN NFL HISTORY was denied on replay.  The problem with that play was that the story was supposed to be "The Great Peyton Manning Leads His Team to Victotry."  Since that was the script, it was simply impossible to rule that "The Great Peyton Manning" had just lost the game for his team with a bone-headed interception.

4)  Mike Holmgren criticized the NFL officiating after the Super Bowl.  The NFL always fines coaches who publicly criticize the officials.  It is a rule.  There was no fine for Holmgrem because the NFL was desperate to make the story go away as fast as possible.  In the words of Al Michaels (not my words...his) "The fact that the NFL did not fine Holmgrem speaks realms."

I think that the Steelers were just as much the victims of the officiating as the Seahawks.  We'll never know who would have won a fair game.  As it is, the Steelers are left with a tainted victory that should always have an asterisk next to it.

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:50 pm 
 

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4)  Mike Holmgren criticized the NFL officiating after the Super Bowl.  The NFL always fines coaches who publicly criticize the officials.  It is a rule.  There was no fine for Holmgrem because the NFL was desperate to make the story go away as fast as possible.  In the words of Al Michaels (not my words...his) "The fact that the NFL did not fine Holmgrem speaks realms."


Well the fact that Holmgren and Tagliabue are extremely close friends probably had nothing to do with that "No Fine" either right, then again you probably were not aware of that.  

I am going to borrow a blog post that pretty much sums up just about everything that I have said in the past and how I feel currently about it and it will save me the time from typing it myself.

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Feb 06, 2006 | 2:15PM | report this You know, I wasn't even going to post anything about my Steelers winning the Super Bowl.  I didn't want to come off as a boaster or a sore winner.  But, after the last 24 hours of ridiculous comments about the game, I feel the need to post something.  So, here it goes:

First, let me say that this is directed at the hoards of clueless, fairweather, bandwagon-hopping, "I'm not a Seahawks fan" idiots who think the refs blew the game and the whole affair was fixed.  Please, you've got to be kidding me.  Let's not just completely throw reality and logic out the window and jump straight to the most ludicrous, outlandish, insane conclusion possible.  Instead, let's take a look at what actually happened in this game, starting at the beginning.

First of all, the Steelers lost the coin toss.  They didn't get to choose between kicking/receiving or end to defend.  If the game had been fixed, the Steelers would've been given that luxury also, why not?

Now, moving into the game, let's take a look at how the first quarter played out.  As a Steelers fan, let me just start with this:  The Seahawks whipped our butts in the first quarter.  There's no denying it, they dominated the first quarter.  The score at the end of the first quarter could've easily been 17-0, or worse.  The only problem is, the Seahawks just couldn't finish their drives.  Yes, I know, a touchdown was taken away from Darrell Jackson.  First, that was most definitely offensive pass interference.  Anyone who denies that doesn't know the meaning of pass interference.  In plain sight, Jackson clearly pushed the defender away from himself, creating space so that he could catch the pass cleanly.  That's the very definition of offensive pass interference.  What's worse is, he did it right in front of the back judge.  How could he possibly expect to get away with it.  Second, it's not like the Seahawks only got one crack at putting it in the endzone.  If I recall correctly, the offense is given 4 new downs each time they make a first down.  So, since the Hawks kicked a field goal on fourth down, they had two other chances to punch it in, and failed.  Plus, Josh Brown missed a field goal in addition to the one he made.  Finally, a drive that started out hot cooled off quickly and ended with a punt on the Steelers' side of the 50.  Which means the Seahawks could've easily had 13-20 points in the first quarter to Pittsburgh's big fat goose egg.  But, the Seahawks couldn't finish their drives off.  That's not the refs fault, that's the Seahawks' offense's fault.

So, instead of burying the Steelers in the first quarter, the Seahawks let them hang around, nursing a slim 3-0 lead.  Now, this story has played out at least a thousand times.  One team dominates the game early, but fails to bury the opponent early and leaves them hanging around.  What happens next?  The team that should've been buried storms back to win the game.  It happens all the time.  In fact, I felt pretty good at the end of the first quarter, because the Steelers were still hanging around even though they had no business being there.  I could see this coming from at least a mile away.

So, at halftime, instead of having a healthy lead, the Seahawks were actually behind, 7-3.  Now, you can argue until you're blue in the face that Big Ben didn't put the ball over the line.   But, the ruling on the field was TD, and there's simply no way to know definitively that the ball never crossed the line.  The ball was tucked under Ben's arm, you couldn't even see it.  Since you couldn't see it, you couldn't know for sure.   And since you couldn't know for sure, you couldn't overturn that call.  In this case, the ref couldn't do right after he went to the booth to review the call.  If he overturns it, the Steelers fans are BLEEPed because there really wasn't solid proof.  If he doesn't overturn it, the Seahawks faithful are BLEEPed because there isn't indisputable evidence that he crossed the line.  In a tie, the call stays the same.  Get over it.  So, anyway, 7-3 Steelers at halftime.

In the second half, the Seahawks paid dearly for not finishing off the Steelers in the first half.  It started with Fast Willie Parker's Super Bowl record 76 yard romp through the Seahawks Swiss Cheese Defense.  You can't blame this one on the refs.  I think only one guy had even a remote chance of tackling Parker, and he missed.  Then, Willie blew right by the rest of the defense.  Not the refs fault.  Of course, the Seahawks came back to make it 14-10 after an interception by Kelly Herndon.  Then, they thought they had taken the lead on another TD pass to Darrell Jackson.  But, Jackson's second foot was out of bounds, by at least a foot!!!  Guys, it wasn't even close.  There is no way his foot hit the pylon.  It landed at least a foot out of bounds.  It was nowhere near the pylon.  The Seahawks went on to get nothing out of this drive, another missed opportunity.  Then, the Steelers took the lead on one of their famous gadget plays.  Again, where was the defense on that one?  Hines Ward had two steps on the closest defender, blown coverage.  21-10.

From what I've read, most people seem to agree on three blown calls, the offensive pass interference call, the Big Ben TD, and the Darrell Jackson foot-out-of-bounds call.  But, let's look at some of the mistakes that the Seahawks made.  First, and most important, they didn't put the Steelers away when they had the chance in the first quarter.  Second, Jerrramy Stevens dropped somewhere in the vicinity of 5  passes, all of which seemed to be key passes that could've kept drives alive.  For a guy who talked smack leading up to the game, he sure did play poorly.  Next, they let Willie Parker go for the longest run in Super Bowl history.  Then, of course, they were totally fooled by the gadget play in the fourth quarter.  Plus, Hasselbeck threw a big INT that killed a drive late in the game.  Oh yes, that's right, the phantom holding penalty.  Yes, the lineman did hold on the play.  Haggans would've blown right by him, so he held him up.  Either way, that doesn't change the fact that Hasselbeck threw a terrible pass that wasn't even close to a receiver.  Plus, at the end of both halves, the Seahawks displayed some of the worst time management skills that I have ever seen.  They completely wasted the final two minutes of both halves.

I'm not saying that the Steelers played a great game.  In fact, I'll say flat out that they played terrible.  But, the Seahawks made loads of mistakes also.  You cannot deny this fact.  Both teams played sloppy football.  Neither team really deserved to win this game.  But, being the Super Bowl, someone had to win.  That team happened to be the Steelers.


As far as the Indianopolis game goes, you are absolutely 100% correct in saying that was perhaps the worst call of all time.  You know what though,  the Steelers still won that game despite the fact that call went against them.  That is exactly what great teams do, they overcome adversity and win games despite blown calls if and when they occur.  Thats why we won Super Bowl 40, no asterisk needed.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:18 am 
 

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If Vanderjagt was still here, it would now be in overtime.  Hell yeah!  Screw you Shockey!  :P


I love that little midget Grammatica....!

Enjoy your early vacation Vandershank! Hopefully you won't be getting a share of the playoff money!

Why would anyone want to play for Coach Coughlin?  He continually looks like someone has taken a dump in his breakfast. I hate the guy, apparantly so does his team, losing looks great on him...!

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