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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:59 am 
 

As you are probably aware William (Dathon) has listed his Pre-Pub R3 for auction:



http://www.acaeum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2625



Any bets on what this will go for?



Interesting that one of our valuation board members believes the est value ($1000) is too low by starting the auction at a min of $1500.  8O

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:09 am 
 

Yay, neat photos. :)



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improvstone wrote:Any bets on what this will go for?


$1,550? (Judging by the lack of interest, at stratospheric price ranges, on Frank's R4 "pre-pub").

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:50 am 
 

harami2000 wrote:$1,550? (Judging by the lack of interest, at stratospheric price ranges, on Frank's R4 "pre-pub").




hmm based on the R1 Pre Pub Price (under $1K) this will be interesting:



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:57 am 
 

improvstone wrote:hmm based on the R1 Pre Pub Price (under $1K) this will be interesting:


Yeah, I remember that one (good provenance, too), but R3 is "rarer" and we're in upswing market mode again.



Still, if you were asking for a "bet", rather than a "guess", Mike...

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:18 am 
 

I'm out. Besides, I'd rather have Tsojconth if I had the money.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:52 am 
 

i would like to have that but i aint willing to pay $1500. $1000 would be my max as it is for everything else of that level of rarity.



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:12 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i would like to have that but i aint willing to pay $1500. $1000 would be my max as it is for everything else of that level of rarity.


Didn't see you on the R1 bidding list, Al. ;)

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:09 am 
 

harami2000 wrote:
Didn't see you on the R1 bidding list, Al. ;)




R1 bidding list? was i around then?



  


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:44 am 
 

IMHO, with no disrespect to William at all, I was thinking $1500 maybe a bit on the high side as well considering what the R1 prepub went for. Personally, if I had the cash I would be interested, but just like Ian,  there are lots of other things I would rather have as opposed to the "prepubs", i.e Tsojconth, ST1, OB3, PotVQ, DG etc. . Contentwise they seem to be virtually the same as the published ones, so I would rather have items that would be a bit different then what I already own.



harami2000 wrote:$1,550? (Judging by the lack of interest, at stratospheric price ranges, on Frank's R4 "pre-pub").




BTW, whatever happened with that? Did someone end up buying it or does Frank still have it? :?


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:32 am 
 

sorry i am still into that pumpkinhead bugbear pic - that rocks man!



yeah nice to have these pre-pub things, but i think more art n stuff makes an item better for me, but thats not to say i wouldnt want it though :)



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:13 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
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Didn't see you on the R1 bidding list, Al. ;)


R1 bidding list? was i around then?


If not, it was your doppelganger here on The Acaeum. *points to auction date*

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:17 am 
 

Sorry, I don't have ANY of the pre-pubs. Wish I did. :/



otoh, I have Original Notes and Original Maps... ;> (nfs)



But Dathon's over in Classifieds sure looks to be the real thing. One of my bright ideas when I started the RPGA... at that time, of real interest only to others with vision. And now they can get their handsome payoffs.





GenCon South was the premier of the newly-minted RPGA. We did Eric Shook's "Eye of the Bog" as the intro adventure, and ran a session or two of R1 Falx informally, and premiered an AD&D Wargame, "Battle Royal". (I never see THAT one pop up for sale, tho. I went down to Bob Blake's house in Valpo for a weekend and we cranked it out. Blake, RIP, wrote a lot of things for JG and ran the GenCon AD&D Open for many years.)



R2 Hydell was the adventure I wrote for the 1980 DM's competition around June/July '80 (which I won; see the silly picture in Dragon forty-something) and then published for RPGA. Don't recall ever using it in a con tourney, tho I may be wrong.



The R3/4 tourney was really the big splash for RPGA. There were at least a dozen of the PrePubs, don't recall exactly. So it's not surprising that this has become one of the most famous and allegedly rarest of the AD&D collectibles. But as I said above, put Battle Royal on your hit list; there *might* be 2-3 copies out there, tops, and it was the first thing ever run for the RPGA -- before the RPGA even had that name.



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:30 am 
 

ExTSR wrote:otoh, I have Original Notes and Original Maps... ;> (nfs)


*g*. Just as well you stated that up-front, Frank? :D

(sure we know, by now!)



Thanks for that other background info.

Don't recall "Battle Royal" mentioned in the histories... Rarity and price don't always go hand-in-hand, but I know a few people around here will undoubtedly have an eye open, just in case.

  

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harami2000 wrote:
killjoy32 wrote:
R1 bidding list? was i around then?


If not, it was your doppelganger here on The Acaeum. *points to auction date*




oh man i dunno - i have trouble remembering last week!  :?



  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:43 am 
 

ExTSR wrote:
put Battle Royal on your hit list; there *might* be 2-3 copies out there, tops, and it was the first thing ever run for the RPGA -- before the RPGA even had that name.



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ooh now thats one to look for....its about as rare as it gets really isnt it :)



i think theres prb about a dozen peeps already who's eyes just suddenly opened a little wider :)



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Post Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:17 am 
 

Hey Wiliam, I noticed that you called out the names of the pregens as Greyhawk characters.  I'd be interested in that info for my tourney and anarams web pages, at some point after the auction, if you're willing :D



Are those characters present in the published R3?  I don't have my copies handy (in KS), so I can't compare.  Any info would be appreciated!   Thanks!


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grodog wrote:Hey Wiliam, I noticed that you called out the names of the pregens as Greyhawk characters. I'd be interested in that info for my tourney and anarams web pages, at some point after the auction, if you're willing :D



Are those characters present in the published R3? I don't have my copies handy (in KS), so I can't compare. Any info would be appreciated!  Thanks!




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Pregens are:



Paladin - Athelstan

Ranger - Tristrum

Cleric - Venacia

M-User - Triladir

CL/MU - Zanzibar

F/Thief - Gadoff

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:09 am 
 

The characters are all based on real ones from my Philadelphia campaign (1976-79, thus predating my TSR work), with original players as follows...



Athelstan (nee Strider): Randy Rice

Tristrum: Everett Wood*

Venacia (nee Aviance): Aileen Shea

Triladir: Don Paterson

Zanzibar: Everett Wood*

Gadoff: Howard Fessler



Don Paterson was the guy who introduced me to D&D. Aileen was my significant other at the time. Dave Axler (see below) badgered me into applying at TSR. Everett has been to both of my weddings, and Howard rejoined years later in the online version of the campaign briefly. (Randy, where did you go? Classic paladin, great roleplaying dude...)



* Though another of the original players is Dr. David Axler (U of PA), whose PCs do appear in other R modules, I used two of Everett's characters to create a more balanced party for tournament purposes.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:04 pm 
 

Thanks for the names, Mike, IIRC they match up with the published R3 pregens.  The Greyhawk reference is what threw me, thinking they were different than the published one.



Frank, do you mind if I use that info on my Greyhawk Anagrams and Homages page at Gygax's Greyhawk Anagrams, Puns, and Homages ?


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:22 pm 
 

grodog wrote:do you mind if I use that info on my Greyhawk Anagrams and Homages page




Any time. I dribble a lot and if some folks wanna collect it, fine...  :wink:

  
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