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bclarkie
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:15 am

harami2000 wrote:
bclarkie wrote:That is really part of the problem with taking private sales. For one it is difficult enough trying to authenticate the sale, but then you have to consider several other mitigating factors involved in the sale such as how informed are both the bidder and seller and also in especially what happens here alot is one member cuts the other a better deal due to the relationship aspect involved, i.e I sell you my recently acquired 1st print woody(ok ok its in rough shape ) for $600, but if it someone else who I didnt know insisting on say $750.

*gives you a probing stare*. You don't need a bigger kiln as well do you, Brian?

Hehehe, Nope no kiln needed here. :wink:

harami2000 wrote: Agreed. Many, many factors; and one reason why it's (relatively!) "easy" to go for the eBay realisation-based option!

But neither is that the entire "community" by a long shot.

Using eBay alone, it certainly seems too easy for lower-value items to slump badly for not-so-good reasons (eBay supply > eBay demand, "not big $" = "not fashionable", less likely to be fought over, etc.).

Whereas in a "real life" situation it might be sensible to place a "value" of a few dollars on a mid-50s Dragon and feel like an OK deal with an acquaintance at that price, in eBay terms it's worth mere cents; for whatever reason. (And being unable to dissemble values from large/mixed lots is problematic, too).

Agreed. There are defintely many problems trying to get real and consistant source of information to determine a value of an item, but at this point it seems the best way is through EBay. Unless of course everyone wants to take up a collection and send me to GenCon next year.

On a side note, I must say that your post to Mike*mdr003* pointed me in the right direction. Since he is too modest to pimp his own items here, I will do it for him. :wink:

mdr003 has up a

Dragon Magazine #1:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Dragon Magazine #3:

Magazine Issues | eBay

And he also has up AD&D mods H2-H4:

eBay listings

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Neitzche

deimos3428
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:36 am

harami2000 wrote:Agreed. Many, many factors; and one reason why it's (relatively!) "easy" to go for the eBay realisation-based option!

But neither is that the entire "community" by a long shot.

Using eBay alone, it certainly seems too easy for lower-value items to slump badly for not-so-good reasons (eBay supply > eBay demand, "not big $" = "not fashionable", less likely to be fought over, etc.).

Ok, I'm glad the d@#$ cellphone woke me up now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Acaeum has used non-eBay sales in its valuations on rare items in the past. I personally see no reason not to continue that trend, particularly on things like 1st woodgrains/chainmails. They don't come around often enough to get picky on the data source, as long as it can be reasonably verified. Long-time Acaeum members such as David hopefully wouldn't lie.

The question as to whether it would have sold for more if X were true is moot, it's just like saying I would have paid $2500 for stormber's woodgrain auction. (I would have, if I had that kind of money to throw around -- I didn't because I don't. :wink: )

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:55 am

bclarkie wrote:On a side note, I must say that your post to Mike*mdr003* pointed me in the right direction. Since he is too modest to pimp his own items here, I will do it for him.

Thanks for the plug - I appreciate it. :D

I have to admit though that my modesty certainly doesn't prohibit me from pimping my auctions for all they're worth; I was going to flag the stuff in the Classifieds, but was planning to wait until closer to the end date.

Actually, I have to say your morals must be stronger than my own - if I was planning on bidding for something on ebay, I wouldn't post the item in this thread - I'd keep quiet and hope noone else sees it.

Regards

Mike

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:23 am

This is just not that difficult. OBVIOUSLY David's $65 Chain would not be added to the value list. We'd all pay 10 times that at least. Neither would my $250 C1. A little common sense needs to factor in here.

Again, list the submitted values and let the Acaeum vote which values should be tossed and which are valid.

Ask yourselves this: Do any of the "heavy hitters" here EVER check the current values listed? Why not? Because we all know roughly what an item is worth, at least to us individually. The list is NOT for our benefit, it is for the benefit of people Like Louise. Her ST1 is not mint, but I'd bet my cornhole it will top $2,000. If she had read the values and someone had offered her $1,500, I am pretty sure she would have sold it.

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:37 am

As an aside, cuattheacaeumboys, if it is Maxine or Johnnie or some other hammerhead, could probably be ferreted out by checking the registered Acaeum members with 0 posts but recent logins. I'm pretty sure one of them will be the one. People like that have a burning need to see the results of their stupidity.

If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

louise49h
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:49 am

I now have a reply from the anonymous bidder confirming that no trouble was intended, that he will not take any further part in the auction under any ID other than his usual one and that I am free to withdraw his previous bids. As I said before, I have confirmed his identity. Hopefully this will bring the matter to a close (not, I hasten to add, the auction!).

Thanks

Louise

bclarkie
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:50 am

louise49h wrote:I now have a reply from the anonymous bidder confirming that no trouble was intended, that he will not take any further part in the auction under any ID other than his usual one and that I am free to withdraw his previous bids. As I said before, I have confirmed his identity. Hopefully this will bring the matter to a close (not, I hasten to add, the auction!).

Thanks

Louise

Assuming that this person is in fact legitimate, and just looking to keep anonymous, then I suspect that I know who it is. If it is this person then I would like to completely appologize for the things that I said, as I was under the impression that this was some nefarious attempt at screwing with Louise's auction. I would also like to say that if it is the person who I think it is then, then I also suspect that they probably regret using the user ID that they used. Also, if it is this person, I know that this person is a good person and is not shady or a dick or trying, but probably could have used a better user ID to remain annonymous. Based on other peoples posts, I now better understand the reasons for a legitimate bidder to want to remain annoymous, and so I will also admit that I am wrong about that. :oops:

*<sorry about the cryptic message, but I don't want to out anybody >*

<edit> It is now confirmed, I am a complete f*cking moron. :oops:

With the exception of the above noted appology please disreagard everything that I have said about this auction, as I don't think that I have ever been more wrong in my entire life.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Neitzche

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:31 am

Don't sweat it, Brian. That'll happen when you're being ever vigilant. :)

As it stands right now, I think the auction is looking good for all parties involved. Louise is getting a windfall that she wasn't aware of last week, and improv is (currently) getting a pretty sweet deal relative to other ST1 auctions.

While I don't disagree with Deadlord's predictions on the final price, it'd be nice to see this trend downward slightly towards sanity. I'll never understand why people value it so much higher than the other rares. :roll:

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:35 am

Folios up with 5 days left

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... _Stores_IT

killjoy32
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:37 am

bclarkie wrote:
<edit> It is now confirmed, I am a complete f*cking moron. With the exception of the above noted appology please disreagard everything that I have said about this auction, as I don't think that I have ever been more wrong in my entire life.

well now thats cleared up, i will put it back in my watched items list....think i can be tempted to throw another bid in once again to just set the cat amongst the pigeons once more

bri...never mind chummer. i would rather you be vigilant and wrong sometimes, than lax and spot nothing at all.

i think everyone else here would also voice the same ?

Al

Are we nearly there yet?

Improv
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:45 am

bclarkie wrote: I now better understand the reasons for a legitimate bidder to want to remain annoymous, and so I will also admit that I am wrong about that.

Brian, its cool! Being the small community that it is I can understand someones desire to remain anonymous ...

I for one don't feel the need for everyone to know everything I buy or sell. (No it wasn't me)

So now that everyone is nice and relaxed lets get back to our regular rare auction bidding / watching. Gotta run guys ... my popcorn is ready :wink:

mbassoc2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:23 pm

So who was the phantom flan flinger? IO? afool...?

This week I've been mostly eating . . . The white ones with the little red flecks in them.

Deadlord
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:42 pm

Flan flinger?

If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:50 pm

killjoy32 wrote:
bri...never mind chummer. i would rather you be vigilant and wrong sometimes, than lax and spot nothing at all.

Better safe than screwed

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:43 pm

Deadlord36 wrote:Flan flinger?

(OT) It's a Brit thing... dun worry, Frank.

h2g2 - Tiswas - the TV show

Deadlord
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:46 pm

Ah, I figured. You guys have the greatest phrases!

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:13 pm

improvstone wrote:
bclarkie wrote: I now better understand the reasons for a legitimate bidder to want to remain annoymous, and so I will also admit that I am wrong about that.

Brian, its cool! Being the small community that it is I can understand someones desire to remain anonymous ...

I for one don't feel the need for everyone to know everything I buy or sell. (No it wasn't me)

So now that everyone is nice and relaxed lets get back to our regular rare auction bidding / watching. Gotta run guys ... my popcorn is ready

I decided to stay out of this particular string because I was not in on the bidding, and will not be.

But the 0 bidder thing is a legit problem - acaeum member in hiding - or not.

Therefore, I don't think bclarkie needs to apologize to anyone. If I were - and I am not - the mysterious bidder, I wouldn't be "hurt" by the accusations. Please, enough of the PC crap.

When dealing with the rares that command $1,000 or more, members of this forum and ebay members in general have a right to think the auction is 100% legit.

We as acaeum members should be careful - most of us have seen the dark side. We should also realize that some actions are gonna turn on the heat. Hell, I've messed up an auction or two, and admit it. So what. Move on.

Now, back to finding interesting stuff for this thread...

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:23 pm

bbarsh wrote:

We as acaeum members should be careful - most of us have seen the dark side.

Hell, some of us wake up next to her every morning!!! :D

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