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Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:18 am 
 

Well, as I said, I have a server that I fire up occasionally for invited people to play on. I could just leave it up and running, but I'd only want to do that if enough people would want to play. I would probably password it so we wouldn't get the "lol u noob wtf wat u use" 15 year old powergamers.

Just a quick aside: One of the things that I find so amusing with the advent of the Web is the amazing degradation of two things, common courtesy and basic English. I absolutely refuse to talk to people who can't type out "you" instead of "u". It's like talking to a child.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:26 am 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Just a quick aside: One of the things that I find so amusing with the advent of the Web is the amazing degradation of two things, common courtesy and basic English. I absolutely refuse to talk to people who can't type out "you" instead of "u". It's like talking to a child.




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Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:37 am 
 

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Deadlord36 wrote:Just a quick aside: One of the things that I find so amusing with the advent of the Web is the amazing degradation of two things, common courtesy and basic English. I absolutely refuse to talk to people who can't type out "you" instead of "u". It's like talking to a child.




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Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:08 pm 
 

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Deadlord36 wrote:Just a quick aside: One of the things that I find so amusing with the advent of the Web is the amazing degradation of two things, common courtesy and basic English. I absolutely refuse to talk to people who can't type out "you" instead of "u". It's like talking to a child.




Amen to that, brother.




yeah man that does my head in that. those txt message abbreviations....man i will NEVER get the hang of them....my daughter runs rings round me with that. i think i missed that bus somewhere.



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Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:00 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:yeah man that does my head in that. those txt message abbreviations....man i will NEVER get the hang of them....my daughter runs rings round me with that. i think i missed that bus somewhere.



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:27 am 
 

I recall seeing a NWN gold version.  Wouldn't that contain the expansions and hence save money from having to track down each release individually?

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:20 am 
 

Platinum version has both expansions.


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:53 am 
 

Great game, but way too time-consuming for someone like me. I sneak in an hour or so about once a week or two.



I have played the U-series (1 & 2 - can't get 3 to launch no matter what I tried [hack pack problem]). It is very, very good and stays damn true to the modules.



Several other modules have been good including B3, B1-9 (very nice). S1 was also very good.


And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:25 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:Great game, but way too time-consuming for someone like me. I sneak in an hour or so about once a week or two.



I have played the U-series (1 & 2 - can't get 3 to launch no matter what I tried [hack pack problem]). It is very, very good and stays damn true to the modules.



Several other modules have been good including B3, B1-9 (very nice). S1 was also very good.


Me too. I just finished U1 & U2 on consecutive days, but I also cant get U3 to work. :(  So I instead moved on to C2 and so far it seems just as good as both U1 & U2. I can't say enough about how awesome it is to be able to play the old P&P mods and have them be so close to the origianls. :D



I would seriously suggest getting the Platinum version, because it has both expansions and they are all on 1 disc. IIRC it is a DVD rom so unless you the DVD player on your system then you would have to buy all 3 instead though.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:10 am 
 

Oh yeah - I played both C1 and C2 before running them for a party in order to get to know them better.



Good modules and good conversions.



Am about to order HotU in order that I can go online at Alvis :D



Amazon.co.uk is nice & cheap for NWN games - can probably buy the three bits cheaper than the deluxe edition.



And whilst we're at it, LOTR The Battle For Middle Earth is cheap as well.



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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:46 am 
 

"I've done U1, U2 and U3, all by Oraweb ....What a truly excellent job".



... amen to that, brother.  Easily my favourite mods available in the Neverwinter Vault - though I did send a suggestion to Oraweb a coupla years ago that he should put some Greyhawk references in, seeing as the majority of TSR UK mods were set there.  I liked the way the haunted house was recreated - even knowing the original P&P mod by heart as I do, didn't stop the sense of tension and imminent danger aiiee!!  



I keep meaning to download the C1 Tamoachan mod too - there's good feedback about that too, and which had a lot of 3rd party work (specialist hakpaks et al) put into it.  I just wish some kind industrious soul would knock out The Sentinel or When A Star Falls!



But as great as NWN is, it is as nothing to the God-like genius that is Planescape : Torment as mentioned elsewhere in this thread - a truly emotionally charged and inventive game, cruelly ignored by the game-purchasing UK public - though even now it still makes most videogaming mags' top ten best RPG lists.  Sadly it's developers Black Isle are no more, going out of business earlier on this year, though the staff are still in the business - some at Obsidian who are working on NWN2 and who did this year's Star Wars : Knights Of The Old Republic 2 (which I'm cuurently playing - the dialogue is a lot more involved and darker than the first game, and has a Black Isle feel to it).  I understand that another ex-Black Isler is working on the new Gauntlet : Seven Sorrows game too.



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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:57 pm 
 

Wasn't there a hakpack for NWN that changed the rules to 2nd edition. I think there may have also been some attempt to use the XP tables from the first edition as well.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:47 am 
 

red_dawn wrote:On the subject of NWN, I gotta make my own plug:



Avlis (The World of Avlis • Portal)



A persistent world (6 servers, ~6,000 areas) that is simply amazing. There's usually about 3 dozen players at any one time, lots of DMs passing through.



You think regular NWN is addictive? Try a campaign world where some people have ran the same character for the last 2 years. Where you can rent an inn room to store unnecessary gear. Where your character can build a reputation. Where you can craft your own weapons, gear, magic items, clothing, whatever. Where you can be a Wemic, Changeling, or any of a number of custom races.



I've been playing on Avlis for months, and am only just beginning to see all the things that are possible there. Powergamers will get bored, as it can take a while to level... but it's a level playing field. Magic is more scarce than the usual NWN shovel-fulls. Roleplay & immersion matter.



By yourself? Gather materials, then make your own equipment. A rogue? Go hit residential areas to get rich. But be careful, for players (or DMs) from law enforcement or the guild are often patrolling unseen.



Got some friends online, no DM around? Go explore a cave you found last week in the Wilderness. But be careful, because the encounters may not be matched to your level. Some areas are just plain dangerous.



Go to the website. Read the rules & guidelines. Send in the application (note that the forum app & Avlis app are 2 different things). Download the hakpaks. Create a character. Start out somewhere safe like Elysia or Le'Or T'Nanshi. Start talking to people. The veteran players & DMs have a special place in their hearts for newbies, giving advice, gold, magic, etc. I haven't gone back to regular NWN since.



The best part? IT'S FREE.






You think that's neat?  I was doing that in 1995 on ArcticMUD...



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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:57 am 
 

What is the link to the free downloadable mods?


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:52 am 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:What is the link to the free downloadable mods?




The main site is Neverwinter   News, Trailers, Screenshots, Previews, Reviews, Guides -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault and here are some of the mods that were posted by Jupp several months ago. :wink:



A1-4: Scourge of the SlaveLords: Pt 1 -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

B2: (SR) Keep on the Borderlands (v 1.45) -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

C1: C1 Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan v2.6 -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

G1-3: G1-3 Giants v1.4 -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

Q1: Q1 - Queen of the Demonweb Pits -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

S4: S-4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

S1: S1 - Tomb of Horrors -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

U1: U1 The Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh (v3) -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

U2: U2 Danger at Dunwater (v1) -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

U3: U3 The Final Enemy (v3) -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault

WG5: WG5 Mordenkainen's Fantastic Adventure -- Neverwinter Nights 2 Vault


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:02 pm 
 

beermotor wrote:
red_dawn wrote:On the subject of NWN, I gotta make my own plug:



Avlis (The World of Avlis • Portal)



A persistent world (6 servers, ~6,000 areas) that is simply amazing. There's usually about 3 dozen players at any one time, lots of DMs passing through.



You think regular NWN is addictive? Try a campaign world where some people have ran the same character for the last 2 years. Where you can rent an inn room to store unnecessary gear. Where your character can build a reputation. Where you can craft your own weapons, gear, magic items, clothing, whatever. Where you can be a Wemic, Changeling, or any of a number of custom races.



I've been playing on Avlis for months, and am only just beginning to see all the things that are possible there. Powergamers will get bored, as it can take a while to level... but it's a level playing field. Magic is more scarce than the usual NWN shovel-fulls. Roleplay & immersion matter.



By yourself? Gather materials, then make your own equipment. A rogue? Go hit residential areas to get rich. But be careful, for players (or DMs) from law enforcement or the guild are often patrolling unseen.



Got some friends online, no DM around? Go explore a cave you found last week in the Wilderness. But be careful, because the encounters may not be matched to your level. Some areas are just plain dangerous.



Go to the website. Read the rules & guidelines. Send in the application (note that the forum app & Avlis app are 2 different things). Download the hakpaks. Create a character. Start out somewhere safe like Elysia or Le'Or T'Nanshi. Start talking to people. The veteran players & DMs have a special place in their hearts for newbies, giving advice, gold, magic, etc. I haven't gone back to regular NWN since.



The best part? IT'S FREE.






You think that's neat? I was doing that in 1995 on ArcticMUD...



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Ha!  :wink:  Give it a try on NWN, though. It'll beat the 20-pixel stick people that your characters were 10 years ago. Really helps in the immersion...



Nah, playing NWN without a persistent world is like playing tournament modules and not a campaign. Fun, but something's missing.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:36 pm 
 

For anyone looking for an online game with role-playing elements, my brother swears by Guild Wars.  I haven't played it yet because I just don't have time.  All you have to do is buy the game.  There is no monthly charge like other MMORPG's.  The only thing you have to purchase later are the upgrades.



I picked up the NWN Platinum pack about a month ago and have played through one scenario which wasnt based on a module.  I liked it ok but probably just need to check out some of the better modules.  Just too damn busy playing Battle for Middle-Earth to really get into it right now.  :wink:

  


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:22 pm 
 

KingOfPain wrote:For anyone looking for an online game with role-playing elements, my brother swears by Guild Wars.




Good lord no. Guild Wars is the antithesis of roleplaying. Their servers are filled with some of the most idiotic, foul-mouthed children I've seen online since playing Diablo way back when. GW is the absolute last MMO I'd recommend for someone wanting to RP.



If you want a MMO, instead of just a NWN Persistant world, try one of the roleplaying servers on World of Warcraft. RP isn't super-common, but it happens there. I used to play on Silverhand, and it was a pretty decent server. Not many jacktards running around.



On topic, I tried U1 a few nights ago, and really wans't impressed. For sticking true to the module, I don't know how well it did, but judging it just based on a NWN module, it was poor in comparison to many other user-made mods. The dialogue was, imo, particularily stilted and painful to read, heh. But, I'm spoiled, since i stick mostly to the top-rated modules, and the majority of those have earned their high ratings :)

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