Don't ya think ebay is getting a little gready with fee bs?
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:53 am 
 

draco76 wrote:Wouldn't be a bad idea really if we had a Acaeum resell website, I'm sure many people here end up with extra stuff they don't want need from buying lots they could have the site reselll the stuff for them for a fee maybe 25% of what item sells for or something, with the site doing all the shipping/packing/listing work. Probably get some rares on there now and then maybe have a smaller fee for big name shit like orange B3 or something maybe 15% fee. Be even better to have it based in the uk and usa save on shipping on commen items or new items.


yeah sounds like a cool suggestion to me.

this is a thing we are going to do too...gonna have a section where we are selling things for ppl as well for a small commission. we are just sorting a terms & conditions atm - getting someone in work to word it for me, so it sounds correct with the terms of law.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:24 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
draco76 wrote:ok this is really pissing me off I just paid a $250 ebay bill...... and paypal fee's are getting outragous


look at this bullshit

Total Amount:
$90.01 USD
Fee Amount:
-$3.81 USD
Net Amount:
$86.20 USD

4.25% gez


If you think that's bad, wait until August when Paypal's fees go WAY up and get REALLY ugly. I'm thinking about offering discount shipping for those that pay by check or money order, except you're not allowed to state or advertise that in your listings (obviously). I suppose I can fit it on the invoice in some way to get around those rules. I'd rather hand money back to the customer than line Ebay/Paypal's pockets anymore.

Mike B.


Over on swordforum, people charge extra for paypal all the time to cover the costs.  I didn't know that wasn't supposted to be stated or advertised.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:33 am 
 

frankfromgermany wrote:
Xaxaxe wrote:What's it all mean? I'm not sure; as I said, these are randmom thoughts. However, as long as the eBay/PayPal dynamic is the only real player in the online auction business — and, let's be honest, that's pretty much the case — small-time sellers like a lot of us here are forced to do two things: first, limit fees as much as possible (low openers, no BINS or reserves, no bold or other add-ons, etc.); second: pass on some costs to buyers.


Third: Build a customer base that trusts you and sell outside of ebay too. That's what i have been doing a lot lately. You don't get around the paypal fees, but at least you don't pay auction fees.

About the second, if you state the postage fees beforehand and increase them slightly to cover your costs you won't loose any serious bidders imo.


The easiest thing to do would be to establish an alternate auction site for a niche.  Using yahoo or one of the other established sites.

That would take a publicity campaign, but you could start it off with a link to your own website which would prominently list the other location.

If a critical mass of people could be moved to a single location (which would mean poaching every place you could find) you could generate niche competition.  It does exist in some genres and some locations.

So, of the people trying to be players, who offers a significantly better deal than e-bay?


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xxx for sale.  "see our website for more offers"

Website describes the seller (maybe acaeum could host a directory for people to describe themselves -- that would be an important part of creating identity "an acaeum seller" for example) and notes that the "best collectables are auctioned at bizcompetitor.com -- link to D&D area on bizcompetitor.

FYI.

Anyway, see you guys when I get back from vacation.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:58 am 
 

I never worry about ebay/paypal fees and I do quite a bit of reselling. I track all my data and purchases in excel spreadsheets. I created several columns and formulas that record the purchase price of each item and all fees, all shipping charges (and actual shipping) and provides a final profit per item. Each sale is calculated against the total price I paid for the lot plus shipping and a net profit (loss) is generated.

When I have sold everything in a given purchase, I just look at the net profit. I did well if it is at least 90% of the purchase price and hopefully more than 100%.

I never worry about anything else. Ebay and Paypal fees can go  :twisted:  themselves for all I care - if I make 100% profit, I don't sweat it and my life is a tiny bit less stressful.
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:10 pm 
 

beyondthebreach wrote:I never worry about ebay/paypal fees and I do quite a bit of reselling. I track all my data and purchases in excel spreadsheets. I created several columns and formulas that record the purchase price of each item and all fees, all shipping charges (and actual shipping) and provides a final profit per item. Each sale is calculated against the total price I paid for the lot plus shipping and a net profit (loss) is generated.

When I have sold everything in a given purchase, I just look at the net profit. I did well if it is at least 90% of the purchase price and hopefully more than 100%.

I never worry about anything else. Ebay and Paypal fees can go :twisted: themselves for all I care - if I make 100% profit, I don't sweat it and my life is a tiny bit less stressful.
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Good observation, if your margins are so low that the 5-7% fees are an issue maybe you should not be selling.  imagine opening up a store with the big overhead or advertizing in the local paper.  Ebay gives us a place to do business and reach customers like no other in history.  Ebay virtually created a RPG gaming collectable industry.


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