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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:27 pm 
 

Sorry to flood the boards with my questions, but everyone has been so helpful so far.  :D

What can anyone tell me about "Don't Give Up the Ship" By Gygax & Carr & Arneson?

I know that there were two editions (at present I own none of them), one in 1971 and another in 1975. The first edition is by Guidon Games. It has a blue cover with black printing upon it. The second editon was done by TSR. It aslo has a blue cover, but the ship has white sails. A photograph of the 1975 version says "Revised and Expanded."

1) Has anyone played this? Is it worth my time to track down?

2) Just how "revised and expanded" is 2E? If I wanted to track one down, is one better than the other?

Thanks in advance!


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:37 pm 
 

i have a copy ill dredge it out and give you some stats for it give me a couple of days

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:56 pm 
 

Well, I managed to buy copies of Don't Give Up the Ship in both 1E (Guidian Games) and 2E (TSR). When I get them I can compare and report back, if anyone but me is interested that is.   :wink:

C'mon post office. Ship faster!


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:13 pm 
 

Finarvyn wrote:Well, I managed to buy copies of Don't Give Up the Ship in both 1E (Guidian Games) and 2E (TSR). When I get them I can compare and report back, if anyone but me is interested that is.  :wink:

C'mon post office. Ship faster!

Heh, heh... Thanks for the update. ;)

I thought I'd purchased both, only to discover I actually have two copies of the Guidon version... :roll:
Just as well I didn't go for that TSR copy, then (on $ grounds, even though would've been "free shipping" in effect along with their copy of Tricolor).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5183536189
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5183532813

Looking forward to finding out whether it is worth picking up the revised version, since the original is of no small importance.
Would certainly be interesting to know whether any "enhancements" reflected (or were reflected in) changing thoughts and ideas elsewhere.

thx.
David.
  

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:23 pm 
 

ooh that looks like a nice lil book - think i bid on one of them once and didnt win


Are we nearly there yet?
  

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:27 pm 
 

Man grodog is incredible.  Even though he usually doesn't bid that high on most things, he is always in the mix in the cool auctions. Maybe I will start using him as my new auction sieve. :twisted:


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:41 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:Man grodog is incredible. Even though he usually doesn't bid that high on most things, he is always in the mix in the cool auctions. Maybe I will start using him as my new auction sieve. :twisted:


Happy to be of service ;)


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:03 pm 
 

grodog wrote:
bclarkie wrote:Man grodog is incredible. Even though he usually doesn't bid that high on most things, he is always in the mix in the cool auctions. Maybe I will start using him as my new auction sieve. :twisted:

Happy to be of service ;)

Heh, heh... not sure whether that was quite how you phrased your response, previously! Thanks again, anyhow, Allan... ;)
  

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:43 pm 
 

I have both 1E and 2E D.G.U.T.S. now and am starting to compare them side-by-side. Not too much difference between the editions.

1E is by Guidon Games and has a black ship on a dark blue cover. 2E is by TSR and has a black ship with white sails on a light blue cover. The diagram is essentially the same, except for sail color.

Both editions have identical Forward introductions, except that they are dated differently. (I guess Gary had the same things to say in each year.)

1E has photographs of actual miniatures in play. These do not exist in 2E.

2E has some diagrams of a couple seabattles and where the ships were located. The ship locations are almost like tiny dots on the diagrams and are hard to read, in my opinion. These diagrams aren't in 1E.

Both editions contain a few illustrations of ship profiles, the same ones in each. The main tables and rules appear to be the same. Overall organization and table of contents are remarkably similar.

2E has a few extra pages of fleet action rules.

Otherwise, it looks mostly like a difference in font size.


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