Badmike wrote:I really, really hope this latest incident will make members of this forum realize that when buying from ETC/GE/JB whether or not it's a "good deal" you are AIDING A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE by dealing with this moron! The fact that despite all the evidence and the warnings, up until last week members of this forum were still attempting to send this guy money is mind boggling! He's a black eye on the hobby and for retailers he's our worst nightmare, as he erodes trust in the entire process of buying RPGs online. After this latest outbreak, I'm seriously contemplating blocking from my own auctions forum members who bid on the next incarnation of ETC/GE/JB auctions, simply because support of a thief, liar and conman is not the sort of behavior I think should be encouraged here or anywhere else. and I'd rather not do business with such people myself. Now, being as don't deal with forum members very freqently (given as how the typical forum member is not looking for a G1-3 against the giants) I realize the "ban" would be mostly symbolic. But I'd be willing to do such actions to throw further light on the problem of supporting criminal activity such as theft, misrepresentation of identity and property, and other sundry activities Jon Basset was engaged in.
Badmike wrote:After this latest outbreak, I'm seriously contemplating blocking from my own auctions forum members who bid on the next incarnation of ETC/GE/JB auctions
deimos3428 wrote:Badmike wrote:I really, really hope this latest incident will make members of this forum realize that when buying from ETC/GE/JB whether or not it's a "good deal" you are AIDING A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE by dealing with this moron! The fact that despite all the evidence and the warnings, up until last week members of this forum were still attempting to send this guy money is mind boggling! He's a black eye on the hobby and for retailers he's our worst nightmare, as he erodes trust in the entire process of buying RPGs online. After this latest outbreak, I'm seriously contemplating blocking from my own auctions forum members who bid on the next incarnation of ETC/GE/JB auctions, simply because support of a thief, liar and conman is not the sort of behavior I think should be encouraged here or anywhere else. and I'd rather not do business with such people myself. Now, being as don't deal with forum members very freqently (given as how the typical forum member is not looking for a G1-3 against the giants) I realize the "ban" would be mostly symbolic. But I'd be willing to do such actions to throw further light on the problem of supporting criminal activity such as theft, misrepresentation of identity and property, and other sundry activities Jon Basset was engaged in.Many of us are good friends on the forums, as we share a common interest. I greatly value other Acaeum members' opinions in regards to all aspects of collecting, including the reputations of various eBay users. However, my business decisions will ultimately remain my own. I'm not interested in entering into some sort of eBay trading union.I recently bid on one of jonb's auctions, after calculating the risk involved from the information made available. I admit I calculated poorly, but ultimately it was my decision to make, not the Acaeum's. I won't be buying from him again, based on my own experience dealing with him. In short, eBay is not a democracy.I've purchased from you before, Badmike, and would do so again as you're a great seller. If you want to block anyone from your auctions for any reason that's your choice, and I respect your conviction in the matter if not your approach.
Ralf Toth wrote:Wow, this is a tough topic. I must admit I was shaking my head, seeing informed Acaeum members bidding on jonb/TGE/ETC auctions. Being informed of jonb's business practices and yet bidding on his stuff doesn't seem right to me. My first thought was, here is someone trying to strike a bargain from an outlawed thief. My second thought was, hopefully they learn their lesson.Kudos to BadMike for having the balls to discuss this openly here, especially as a professional seller, who won't profit from this decision.I think it is good to have this discussion here, but I'm not sure whether it is helpful to ban informed collectors who bid on the thief's stuff. After all, we shouldn't fight each other, while the thief is laughing at us.
tec-9-7 wrote:He's certainly gotten a nice collection of negatives in the last few days... Anyone notice that he described The Sunless Citadel as VERY RARE!?
Xaxaxe wrote:Six of last seven (and eight of last 13) comments are negative.
rosenkav wrote:Thanks to the Acaeum, I have never bought anything from this Jonb thief, nor I have even THOUGHT of doing it, even at the start of his course.I think that this kind of people should be eradicated from the ground like a bad seed - and maybe our talks and advice here have helped to do this sooner than later.My opinion is to display in the auctions we run something about the Acaeum, so that people could check here, and maybe help themselves defend against such scammers.