Badmike wrote:Has he contacted you about paying yet?Mike B.
shadzar wrote:eBay should instate a policy where the seller can NOT GET feedback until after they have left feedback for his/her buyer.
shadzar wrote:it solves several things
shadzar wrote:well i may be new here, but have been using eBay for 6 years.
shadzar wrote:but there is too much retaliatory feedback left by lazy ass sellers
shadzar wrote:i will note your name to add to my eBay block list
shadzar wrote:sorry i posted here at all since i know nothing of the seller, and am apparently ignorant of eBay since i dont have much to sell there, or have millions of dollars to spend there. blame GW for sending me a cease and desist order for trying to sell the $5000 worth of their products on eBay, and they didnt like that i was selling them brand new at lower than the price cap they have and try to hide.
killjoy32 wrote:no biggie really.
Xaxaxe wrote: I have a lot of respect for the research that Clarkie and others have done to smoke this guy out of the woodwork. JonB is a complete menace and an unparalleled liar, and I don't want to distract from those facts. I figured if Shad and I kept lobbing broadsides at each other — fun as that might be — the hard work that originated this thread could be side-tracked.
shadzar wrote:well i may be new here, but have been using eBay for 6 years.and the seller leaving feedback first is simple and understandble once you realize the the seller if the first party to ever GET their part of the transaction.so they automatically have the first honest chance to leave feedback.ie they dont get payment they they leave negative feedback. they do get payment then they leave positive.all the system allows for by allowing a seller to leave feedback later is retaliatory feedback from sellers who scam honest people.i mean come on think about it. i ALWAYS leave feedback to my buyers if/when i get the payment. and them procede to ship the item.then as a seller my part is over and done with, unless the item doesnt arrive in the correct time which after a week if i havent gotten feedback from the buyer i send them a message asking if they got it, to leave feedback, if not i provide them with the USPS or UPS tracking number so we can both try to find the package.when the buyer gets the item they can leave feedback based on item description, seller responsibilty such aas answereing question regaring the auction in a timely manner. shipping the item in a timely manner, etc.but there is too much retaliatory feedback left by lazy ass sellers who think that cause they have your money including priority or express mail charges, that they can wait 2 weeks to send out the item(s).WRONG! that defeats the purpose of express or priority mail, meaning i want it now. and the seller SHOULD get negative feedback for being lazy or irresponsible. and the buyer should get attacked for it when they sent the payment and had to wait on a lazy seller.i will note your name to add to my eBay block list just to be safe as you seem to be one who might think holding a money order for it to clear is logistically sound. when in fact you can cash them AT the post office when you mail the package. you just seem that kind of person to not be able to understand why forcing a seller to leave feedback first in order to get it is a good idea.if ONLY it prevents bad sellers then eBay would be 500% better and safer place. (but eBay doesnt understand or care either cause they are just out to get people money also and dont care what happens to them.)
pleveich wrote:He paid over $50 for a rare game and then tried to hold my feedback hostage to get money back from me. Since then my wife and I do not leave positive feedback for anyone until they do so. Believe me, I would prefer to leave positve feedback for buyers when they pay, but this loser forced us to change our methods. I am sure every other person here who sells stuff has had a similar experience. The entire feedback system is a good thing when used properly but in the case above is can also be used in a very bad way.John Pleveich
shadzar wrote:i mean come on think about it. i ALWAYS leave feedback to my buyers if/when i get the payment. and them procede to ship the item.
GraysonAC wrote:Badmike wrote:Has he contacted you about paying yet?Mike B.Nope. I'm going to just wait. If he wants to try to open a NPB claim against me, we'll see where it goes. Otherwise, I'll hopefully stay under the radar, and not have to worry about any Neg. (Although if he does Neg me, I'll use the RL name trick)
Badmike wrote:Anyone who has bid on his items, in a little over 8 hours Jon wont' have any more items up on ebay (his last two auctions will end). You might want to wait a bit and see if he's still alive enough to list anything, otherwise you might be off the hook. These might just be the death throes.
shadowfax17 wrote:I was thinking the same thing. JonB has been strangely inactive this week. He hasn't even bothered to give retaliatory FB for his recent negatives.