deimos3428 wrote:

killjoy32 wrote:the sooner everyone wises up to the guy, the better.

It may interest many here to know that his account is currently frozen, and has been that way for at least 24 hours...

I recently threw in a lowball bid an auction and won. But don't fret, folks, as it appears I can't pay him despite my best efforts to do so.

Paypal wrote:"This recipient is currently unable to receive money."

If the situation changes, I'll keep you informed. (I've already sent him email stating that if I don't at least hear from him, I'll be forced to file a non-performing seller report.)

This happens if you have a dispute with Paypal.  It goes like this, a buyer (or buyers, in the case of this retard) are pissed off, and do a chargeback on their paypal payment.  This typically comes out of your paypal balance, but if you empty your balance daily or more the chargeback will sit in your paypal account as a negative until you deposit more money or have it deposited by a buyer.  To prevent paypal from getting the money, you can block the account (or close it down, if you really want to pull up stakes) and that way no money gets deposited into your account for use only as a chargeback (to pay back the bidder you ripped off).  I've known people to do this when they have a big problem with Paypal or a big payment has been charged back.  Sometimes it's done when Paypal investigates fradulent accounts also. Whatever, it's just another negative in this guy's book as far as I'm concerned.

Mike B.

JonB just had his negative feedback from me deleted by posting my name in his response. If you respond to a negative feedback by saying something like 'Thanks, David for the negative feedback.' eBay will delete the whole item, and you keep your record clean.

Cool, huh?

shadowfax17 wrote:JonB is on a roll now! He just picked up his 2nd negative of the day:

Paid, but never recieved item. No response to emails I've sent since winning. Buyer varek-kai ( 16) Jun-29-05 10:06 5202649834

Five of the last 10 feedbacks left for JonB have been negative. Wonder if he's still packing furiously?

Looks like the route is defintely on now. Now the question is how long until he officially folds up the tent and leaves? And how long does he wait this time to return under a new user ID that Ebay will do nothing to prevent from ripping people off again.

I wonder how big of an A$$hole the person from Ebay who said that they could do nothing about him because they couldnt be sure it was the same person feels like? And what about the jack-offs who actually removed negative feedback that was left for him trying to warn potential buyers of who he really was? This all should have been moot back in March whenever he was reported a multitude of times, but of course Ebay had to try and suck as many fees as possible from him at the expense of his paying customers

bclarkie wrote:

shadowfax17 wrote:JonB is on a roll now! He just picked up his 2nd negative of the day:

Paid, but never recieved item. No response to emails I've sent since winning. Buyer varek-kai ( 16) Jun-29-05 10:06 5202649834

Five of the last 10 feedbacks left for JonB have been negative. Wonder if he's still packing furiously?

Looks like the route is defintely on now. Now the question is how long until he officially folds up the tent and leaves? And how long does he wait this time to return under a new user ID that Ebay will do nothing to prevent from ripping people off again.

    Well, whatever happens, we'll be watching BC....wonder who Jonb will leave his stuff for after he "passes" away this time?  I don't think he and Jason had any kids together, I don't think that's possible, but you never know
  Each time he tries to come back, it just makes it tougher on himself.   More people familiar with his shtick, more people knowing the crap he peddles (If a Ruby Dragon comes up, I mean, everyone knows now who that is..).  We'll be on him even faster next time.  

I wonder how big of an A$$hole the person from Ebay who said that they could do nothing about him because they couldnt be sure it was the same person feels like?

They dont' care.

And what about the jack-offs who actually removed negative feedback that was left for him trying to warn potential buyers of who he really was?

They don't care.

This all should have been moot back in March whenever he was reported a multitude of times, but of course Ebay had to try and suck as many fees as possible from him at the expense of his paying customers

Well, cynically, it's their job to make money and not to help out 1 or 2 buyers that may be complaining.  In these cases they will bend over backwards to help the SELLER, who generates most of their revenue.  I have to admit as a seller I do like the fact I'm somewhat "protected" against a disgruntled psychotic buyer or two who might try and make trouble for me.  However, then you have a Jonb come along and ruin everything.
    The best possible solution is to do what we have been doing, self policing.  Remember, a lot of savvy gamers and buyers from these very forums purchased from Jonb, even after there were practically daily warnings from the Cassandra's of the audience here. Realistically, if people as intelligent as those on these boards continued to skirt disaster by dealing with a thief and a liar, the average Ebay buyer doesn't care either.  I guess next time, the best procedure is for certain vigilantes to bid early for his stuff, wait a decent length of time, then neg the hell out of him and drive him off earlier, or at least leave him negs that may cause one or two potential buyers to shy away.  Im in the process right now of aquiriing a friend's Ebay account (he hasn't bid in years but has about 5-6 feedback) which I guess I will be using for this endeavor if the deal goes through. I would hate to resort to this but this guy seems to be bulletproof as far as Ebay is concerned.  
 Watching the demise with great pleasure, though....

Mike B.

I knew I should have started reading through here earlier.

I've got winning bids on 9 of his items. Apparently I'm quite fortunate that when I tried to pay him, I got the "This recipient is currently unable to receive money." from PP.

Is there a legitamate way to get around not paying this jackass? I'd rather not eat the negatives

Oh, I've got no intention of paying him after reading this thread and seeing the recent negatives. But "Seller is a wanker and has some recent negative feedback." doesn't strike me as a reason that eBay will listen to when I explain <i>why</I> I haven't paid

Ahah! Good suggestion. I emailed him a few days ago saying that I tried to pay him and got the "This recipient is currently unable to receive money." message, but didn't hear back from him.

At the time, I thought it was just a technical error on the part of PP... whew

In the short term, it is more profitable for eBay to ignore the "jonb" types ripping off people since eBay still will make money off the sales, but in the long run they are shooting themselves in the foot by angering buyers who may sour on the whole eBay auction experience and stop bidding altogether (it is just a hobby for many people and there are plenty of other places to spend one's money).  According to recent articles in the WSJ and NYT, eBay is down on the total number of bids and up in the number of unsold items from one year ago.  A business that is unresponsive to customers with legitimate gripes will eventually lose customers and hence revenue.  With less bidders, more and more sellers will look to other avenues to sell their wares.  According to an article in this week's WSJ, many sellers of books and DVDs are fleeing to Amazon.com where their items sell faster and at a higher price.  The article said Amazon.com had a "higher economic class" of customer, while eBay had the bottom feeders.  In addition, it stated that eBay had too many seller and not enough buyers.  Other sellers are going back to their own websites and using text advertising with Google and others to drive traffic to their site where they don't have to pay eBay fees.  eBay has pretty much a monopoly on online auctions, but dissatisfied big-time sellers know there are other outlets out there to sell that are potentially more profitable.  

As for a retaliatory negative from jonb, just respond to the feedback with his name and eBay will evidently remove all feedback from the transaction as per their policy.  Strange, but it seems to work.

GraysonAC wrote:Ahah! Good suggestion. I emailed him a few days ago saying that I tried to pay him and got the "This recipient is currently unable to receive money." message, but didn't hear back from him.

At the time, I thought it was just a technical error on the part of PP... whew

I would heartily recommend not paying, there is a very good chance you'll never get your items.  I actually think he might disappear after this anyway, so you probably won't have to worry about negs.  Has he contacted you about paying yet?

Mike B.