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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:51 pm 
 

Jenniferinwv wrote in ETC/GAME EMP/jonb7839,lisas_stuff_too! is now she_wolf626:Wow, I'm a new eBay seller and my husband just bought six large boxes of RPG books. I started listing them today (the ones I'm able to pry away from him) and She_wolf bought a Judge's Guild item within 5 minutes of the listing. She wanted to know what other Judge's Guild I have, but after reading almost this entire thread, no way am I selling outside of eBay. Thank y'all (I usually would put an exclamation point, but this thread has made me paranoid)


Good call! I wish you the best in your selling.  Feel free to search on this site for other eBay selling insights and recommendations.  And, of course, we love seeing pictures of garage sale/estate sales hauls!   8)


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:29 pm 
 

As pointed out in another thread, our favorite seller is now selling items under username jorig8850.  Be forewarned!

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:48 am 
 

Hi.
    I added myself as a member because I started researching this person (JR) due to what I felt was an odd transaction. I purchased a hardcover ToEE (imagine that!). I kinda already knew it was a bootleg, but didn't know the history of this person. My thoughts were that I'd be getting a lot of use out of it, so the hardcover edition might last longer; Or, if it was indeed some crazy rare promotional copy from a Con or something, I'd put it away into the collection. It was sold as "Near Mint". It would have been too if it didn't arrive with slight water damage on the inside cover. I asked for a $30 partial refund (The book was $100. A steep price for a printed copy, considering a new 5E book is half that price.); The person gave me the partial refund.

    It was sold as "rare", but their completed listing showed they were selling one a week like clockwork. I brought it up and the person stated that their late husband passed away and these were from his collection and that she only had a few left. My thoughts were, "Where did she get them? These are sold nowhere else. This is not an official TSR or WOC product." My impression was they were just printing them off somewhere and selling them one-at-a-time to give the false impression of rarity.

Anyway, is that the MO of this person? Do they have a history of selling fake D&D memorabilia? I'll avoid in the future if so. Sounds like a character!

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:57 pm 
 

Looks like a Print-on-Demand copy, which, provided the originating source has the right to reprint (DrivethruRPG or wherever), then it isn't illegal to sell the product. Only misleading description and ridiculous price. If you were in the UK I'd say send it back and get a full refund, because in the UK we are entitled to a full refund on anything we buy online for any reason if we are dissatisfied. We do not need to demonstrate wrongdoing. Sad for eBay sellers over here because a lot of sellers get stung when buyers feel remorse about buying stuff.

Clearly something which is maybe worth $25-$30 if you particularly wanted a hard copy. At the moment you can't buy hardcopy from DrivethruRPG. But theres a lot of stuff on eBay now that is Print-on-Demand being sold at ridiculous mark-ups. So if you paid $100, and you like it and want to keep it, and its worth $30, and he gave you a $30 partial refund also, then its a $40 lesson which is not a bad price to open your eyes to the shenanigans that go on around the collecting market these days.

Thanks for letting us know.
In regard to the quality of the reprint, is it clear and with pages that are well centred? Does any of the text disappear into the binding? Are the maps okay? The original has a map booklet, so I am assuming this has the maps bound in at the back?
I'm just curious, because PoDs such as these are done from scans of the original books, which you can clean up with software, but are never clear and perfect like modern PDFs are. I've never seen a Print-on-Demand product from a scanned PDF before, so I am curious about quality.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:45 pm 
 

Yes, I have to agree. Print-on-demand seems accurate. I'll be honest though; except for the slight water damage along the bottom of most of the pages (obvious waviness from water), the print is not blurry and doesn't run into binding. The cover is super nice and glossy. The maps are printed in and are not in a separate booklet. I would have been completely satisfied had it not been for the water damage. I just wanted to post about the seller since I noticed people here had run-ins with that person. (This site came up from a Google search of the sellers name). For the record, they offered a complete refund, but I was content with the partial refund which was my suggestion. I feel now that I'm back running 1E again from the deep freeze, this module will get a lot of abuse!

I'll definitely be checking back in here. Thanks for having me!

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:52 pm 
 

Sounds like a good quality print, and to put it in perspective, a near mint copy of ToEE original would set you back $100+
https://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modcode.html
The forum tracks prices on most of the key D&D items, and has data going back decades (although I don't know if historic data is available on the site.)

If you're thinking of buying Print-on-Demand, now that you are aware of the eBay scams, I'd go to DrivethruRPG first. The ToEE soft cover reprint is $20 with a copy of the PDF thrown in.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:12 pm 
 

Syranimys wrote in ETC/GAME EMP/jonb7839,lisas_stuff_too! is now she_wolf626:Hi.
    I added myself as a member because I started researching this person (JR) due to what I felt was an odd transaction. ....
.... Sounds like a character!


If you think she's bad, Cougarrinard arguably wins the prize as the worst all time eBay rip-off artist.  There's a LONG thread about his shenanigans:

Cougarrinard is now using Ebay ID of littleprincessfreya

There's also a "Shady Dealers of the Past" thread:

Shady dealers of the past

And a "Shady Dealers" thread:

Shady Dealers

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:13 pm 
 

Syranimys wrote in ETC/GAME EMP/jonb7839,lisas_stuff_too! is now she_wolf626:Hi.
    I added myself as a member because I started researching this person (JR) due to what I felt was an odd transaction. I purchased a hardcover ToEE (imagine that!). I kinda already knew it was a bootleg, but didn't know the history of this person. My thoughts were that I'd be getting a lot of use out of it, so the hardcover edition might last longer; Or, if it was indeed some crazy rare promotional copy from a Con or something, I'd put it away into the collection. It was sold as "Near Mint". It would have been too if it didn't arrive with slight water damage on the inside cover. I asked for a $30 partial refund (The book was $100. A steep price for a printed copy, considering a new 5E book is half that price.); The person gave me the partial refund.

    It was sold as "rare", but their completed listing showed they were selling one a week like clockwork. I brought it up and the person stated that their late husband passed away and these were from his collection and that she only had a few left. My thoughts were, "Where did she get them? These are sold nowhere else. This is not an official TSR or WOC product." My impression was they were just printing them off somewhere and selling them one-at-a-time to give the false impression of rarity.

Anyway, is that the MO of this person? Do they have a history of selling fake D&D memorabilia? I'll avoid in the future if so. Sounds like a character!



It's a print on demand item, either legally from Drive thrus or Lulu, or via uploaded files to Lulu or another place. It's not worth $100, but it's a nice way to read this without damaging an actual copy. While not illegal to sell, it's dishonest if it's being peddled as some sort of rare collectible, because it's not.

The "my husband died and these were from his collection" is an out and out lie, she/he/it was trying to peddle this  story 15+ years ago, there is no dead husband and no old collection they are selling from.

FYI, as Ian says, just buy POD from Drive Thru, much cheaper.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:44 pm 
 

I'm running into a unique problem with 'she_wolf626'. Short of the long is that I live in Texas. Prior to the massive storm, a shipment I had prepped didn't go out in time. I had a few days of opportunity, but dropped the ball due to competing life priorities, and I communicated it. No issues until they decided to read the shipment communication from UPS incorrectly. Very night and day in terms of response--to include a veiled threat just now.

I paid extra money (out of pocket; $58) to go with UPS knowing USPS would still be jammed up from the ice and now. The logics problems cleared and they'll get their package in the next day or two.

Anyways, completely inappropriate individual that likes to type in all-caps and threaten. Happy to provide more details, but I wish I could have known about them prior to the sale. I would have avoided it at all costs. Yeesh.

I half expect them to demolish my shipment and make a claim with eBay. Not looking forward to the next week.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:56 pm 
 

Eruantien wrote in ETC/GAME EMP/jonb7839,lisas_stuff_too! is now she_wolf626: Happy to provide more details,


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:01 pm 
 

Interestingly, based on feedback others gave them, they are trying to do the same to me (screenshot of one of their own buyers trying the same with them)

My transaction with this user is $500+ and includes several rare collectables. I've maintained each private message, but am interested to see what the outcome is first. I'll provide the breakdown, play by play, by the end of the week.

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