killjoy32 wrote:jeff. does it have any (c) date anywhere on it?Al
harami2000 wrote:Pete's memories of adding the front sheets to that copy might still be correct (albeit not in the original auction date context).Would that have been easy to do, or was the ziploc sealed?
IO wrote:I've been in contact with Lou Zocchi, and he said that the Yellow-Covered-Copied-Version with his name and address was sold during his days of selling used and rare RPG's. He had nothing to do with its publication or real distribution. He was nice and also took it a step further by contacting Bill Jaffe who assisted Lou in selling collector sales at the time, and according to his recollection remembers the Folder-Version as being the first print.
a2jeff wrote:The copyright date is on the back side of the cover, just as stated in the Acaeum listing and just as it appears in the picture posted:acaeum.com/DDIndexes/ModPages/ModScans/ ... MK1v1.html
killjoy32 wrote:remember what pete said? something along the lines of:they printed a load of copies. did the yellow ziplock out of the trunk of the car and they didnt sell well, so they went back and did the same but in the folder version and then they started to sell well.
Pete Kerestan wrote:The product itself was first put out in a plastic bag with just a plain sheet front. They didn't sell to the hobby shops in LA at all well. I took the next step and had a black cover made up by my wife's cousin who had a print shop. This did some sales. I then got a press and ran the sheets again putting together a poly bag and adding a cover sheet that Brad did for me
killjoy32 wrote:yup dont you just hate having to go look i am like cringing each time i have to now.
killjoy32 wrote:why would pete have a house copy of one of the yellow ziploc's if it wasnt a 1st? surely you would keep one of your 1st copies for that? i know i would if i was in the same situation....
tfm wrote:The only emergent truth here is that either WW, TSR, or Zocchi made the castle cover yellow. The whole affair does seem to stink.
harami2000 wrote:tfm wrote:The only emergent truth here is that either WW, TSR, or Zocchi made the castle cover yellow. The whole affair does seem to stink.That's the truth Pete definitely got the raw end of the deal, regardless of all this printing technicality stuff.
killjoy32 wrote:so its definately established that the LZ version is AFTER the yellow ziploc and the black folder?
harami2000 wrote:Yellow Palace (current 3rd) already seemed that way from other cumulative evidence ($5 price tag, single tone "printing", not mentioned in earlier reviews, etc.).Would be good to know whether LZs are a subset of those alone, or whether there may be confirmable copies of earlier "prints" with a LZ label stuck over the TSR distribution text.