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Post Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:23 am 
 

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harami2000 wrote:Heya, Mike.
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Also, your copy already had one missing map page which was replaced by a tri-folded copy. (Was that a TSR photocopy or just "low on ink"? Please remind me!).


David,
Are you confusing my copy with I/O's? I believe my foldered PoVQ - which I won from Rick Bauer - is complete.

No, I'm just confusing you with Mike <IO>... :oops:
*edits post*. Sorry, Stephen!

Out of interest, did Rick confirm that this was the $500 GenCon copy from a year or two back?

afoolandhis$ wrote:I tend to agree with the hypothesis that the yellow cover sheet was added later.

It goes against the grain of the 75/76 date and the "Feb 76" bagged date (unless Pete was actually correct in remembering he added the cover sheet later, in which case it would've been much later in 1976 that he added that).

Hey, ho! If we could discard those earlier dates from Pete, it does appeal in that a (genuinely as-issued) missing "cover"/scrollwork sheet in some black folders (which partially duplicates the "contents" section of the white sheet, anyhow) would tally with the black folder being "earlier".
But it is still "stuck" at June 1976 given that pasted copyright sheet (in all known copies?).

Hrrrr.....

  


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Post Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:36 am 
 

harami2000 wrote:No, I'm just confusing you with Mike <IO>... :oops:
*edits post*. Sorry, Stephen!


No problem; my mom almost did name me Mike...

harami2000 wrote:Out of interest, did Rick confirm that this was the $500 GenCon copy from a year or two back?


Nope.  I asked him twice, but never got an answer.  He was stationed in Bahrain, if I recall correctly, so might be a bit busy.  

harami2000 wrote: Hey, ho! If we could discard those earlier dates from Pete, it does appeal in that a (genuinely as-issued) missing "cover"/scrollwork sheet in some black folders (which partially duplicates the "contents" section of the white sheet, anyhow) would tally with the black folder being "earlier".
But it is still "stuck" at June 1976 given that pasted copyright sheet (in all known copies?).

Hrrrr.....


Didn't someone post here within the past half-year or so about a foldered version lacking the glued-in copyright page?  Or am I just recalling one of my own wishful thoughts?

  


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Post Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:53 am 
 

afoolandhis$ wrote:
harami2000 wrote:Out of interest, did Rick confirm that this was the $500 GenCon copy from a year or two back?


Nope. I asked him twice, but never got an answer. He was stationed in Bahrain, if I recall correctly, so might be a bit busy.

Pity. Thanks for trying to check, anyhow.

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harami2000 wrote:But it is still "stuck" at June 1976 given that pasted copyright sheet (in all known copies?).

Didn't someone post here within the past half-year or so about a foldered version lacking the glued-in copyright page? Or am I just recalling one of my own wishful thoughts?

Maybe the same wishful thinking that I had, prior to changing my text to "in all known copies?"?
Was it not that the copyright sheet had become detached in one black folder owing to the rubber gum being pretty weak, or something like that?

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It would be good to pin all this down, but is getting back into "discard x and become an earlier release" territory, possibly barring the stated-1974 release.
(Pete did do a good job of trashing my hopes that single/double sided, paper crimps, other minor printing variations, etc. might be able to be used with regards print runs. His statement that they had all sorts of fun-and-games whilst printing pretty much put paid to any of that. I copied you in on his email re. those...).

Well, at least we know the black folder pre-dates May/June 1976, since he sent one to TSR. (As well as a white copy of Brad/Morno's scrollwork cover sheet... hmmm....).


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:57 am 
 

heheh this made me smile:

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:GK_6 ... n%22&hl=en

and this made me laugh a LOT!

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:47 am 
 

Pretty amusing.


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:33 am 
 

and this made me laugh a LOT!

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ROTFL

I wonder how much he'll mark up the extravagent prices he's wanting to purchase them for in order to re-sell ?  :lol:

  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:42 am 
 

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and this made me laugh a LOT!

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ROTFL

I wonder how much he'll mark up the extravagent prices he's wanting to purchase them for in order to re-sell ? :lol:


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:45 am 
 

AdderMcOne wrote:
and this made me laugh a LOT!

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ROTFL

I wonder how much he'll mark up the extravagent prices he's wanting to purchase them for in order to re-sell ? :lol:


well i tell ya, if you can get em for that much, i will have 10, no, 15 of everything on the list :)



  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:03 am 
 

My black folder version of POTVQ has the white cover sheet, no yellow sheet, and the TSR distribution sheet (detached, but present).

  

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:05 pm 
 

Actually, considering that McDuff has Goodman Games' Haunted Lighthouse on his list, I think it is a strong bet that the website has indeed been updated. Whether or not it has, even 5 years ago those were pretty weak prices.


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:27 pm 
 

tfm wrote:My black folder version of POTVQ has the white cover sheet, no yellow sheet, and the TSR distribution sheet (detached, but present).


Can you tell if it ever was attached; i.e., is there glue residue on the sheet or on the folder?

  

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:11 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Actually, considering that McDuff has Goodman Games' Haunted Lighthouse on his list, I think it is a strong bet that the website has indeed been updated. Whether or not it has, even 5 years ago those were pretty weak prices.


yeah they do look er a little duff dont they :D



  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:13 pm 
 

It's very hard to tell for sure.  The folder (inside top right) has some tiny, and I mean tiny, traces of something going across the top about an inch down.  I might be more inclined to say yes, it was glued, but there is no trace of any glue on the TSR distribution sheet whatsoever, at least at the 1x optical level.  If it's any help, the TSR distribution sheet was definitely printed on the same printer as the other sheets in the module--the toner lines confirm this.  In that regard, it's not an orphan.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:20 pm 
 

tfm wrote:If it's any help, the TSR distribution sheet was definitely printed on the same printer as the other sheets in the module--the toner lines confirm this. In that regard, it's not an orphan.


Okay, valuable bit of information there; I was just going to ask you about that.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:09 pm 
 

Alright, I am betting TFM wins it this time around:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:16 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Alright, I am betting TFM wins it this time around:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

I'm just hoping it'll go away before I do something stupid and bid the mortgage payment on it.  Must...resist...PoVQ  :?

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:18 pm 
 

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bclarkie wrote:Alright, I am betting TFM wins it this time around:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

I'm just hoping it'll go away before I do something stupid and bid the mortgage payment on it. Must...resist...PoVQ :?


Its over. :) None other than a2jeff is the winner. :) He seems to be having a pretty nice run at this wee warriors stufff recently :wink:

Now can Frank hold off Jeff?

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I am guessing no. :wink:


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:26 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Its over. :) None other than a2jeff is the winner. :) He seems to be having a pretty nice run at this wee warriors stufff recently :wink:

Heh. Read it here, first...

Yeah, I kinda guessed that was on the cards when Jeff didn't respond to my email. Congrats, anyhow. :?

I hope Pete's happy with the extra $10 (or $3.26, given that my max "fair offer" was going to be in the $750-800 range had he bothered to answer, as was promised).
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:29 pm 
 

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bclarkie wrote:Its over. :) None other than a2jeff is the winner. :) He seems to be having a pretty nice run at this wee warriors stufff recently :wink:

Heh. Read it here, first...

Yeah, I kinda guessed that was on the cards when Jeff didn't respond to my email. Congrats, anyhow. :?

I hope Pete's happy with the extra $10 (or $3.26, given that my max "fair offer" was going to be in the $750-800 range had he bothered to answer, as was promised).
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i was actually tempted there to throw in some bids, but then i already have one, so thats just being greedy really :)

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:29 pm 
 

harami2000 wrote:
bclarkie wrote:Its over. :) None other than a2jeff is the winner. :) He seems to be having a pretty nice run at this wee warriors stufff recently :wink:

Heh. Read it here, first...

Yeah, I kinda guessed that was on the cards when Jeff didn't respond to my email. Congrats, anyhow. :?

I hope Pete's happy with the extra $10 (or $3.26, given that my max "fair offer" was going to be in the $750-800 range had he bothered to answer, as was promised).
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Sorry David, I wasn't trying to rub salt in your wounds. :(  I actually figued that you were done with it coinsidering what happened the 1st time around.


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