Read it again. The first print run was both poly and black folder. He didn't run more sheets until he got his own press, and added the cover sheet. So what you have is two different versions of the same printing. He also states that the third printing is the copy on eBay, the original sheets and new cover.
This explains why every retailer and gamer I spoke with who was active during that time. only saw the black foldered version. If he was selling copies only in LA, it would have very low distribution.

Hmm interesting, but that is definitely right.  :)  Question then becomes where is the 3rd print artwork page becuase it is not showing in the picture.

Deadlord36 wrote:Read it again. The first print run was both poly and black folder. He didn't run more sheets until he got his own press, and added the cover sheet. So what you have is two different versions of the same printing. He also states that the third printing is the copy on eBay, the original sheets and new cover.
This explains why every retailer and gamer I spoke with who was active during that time. only saw the black foldered version. If he was selling copies only in LA, it would have very low distribution.

Actually, his comments are ambiguous.  He doesn't say he did or didn't do a print in between. He could well have done a second print at his cousin's print shop.  You are better off asking the question rather then assuming.  He seems like a nice guy so I am sure he will have no problem putting this debate to bed once and for all.

The term original sheets is also ambigous .. is this the original sheets left over from the 1st print run?

1st print: He runs off a bunch of copies, and sells a couple in poly bags. Then, he runs off black folders, puts the sheets in the folders instead of poly bags, and sells a lot of them.

2nd print: He has a cover sheet made and goes back to poly bags.

3rd and 4th prints: He switches to booklet form.

Now the comment:

In Jan of 75 a friend ran the shop till mid Feb when I got out of the service and took over the shop.

I'm not minded to dig out copies of PoVQ to check, but there is a massive time discrepancy here. Since the brown box came out in '74, and according to the seller in Jan of '75 he was printing the booklet form, the other copies were supposedly printed in '74. Not possible.
I also see much mention of him selling the copies himself, both out of car and shop. He mentions a verbal payment agreement from TSR in '75, but the original copies were supposedly distributed by TSR. The booklet form was supposedly distributed by WW, yet this story has it the other way around.
I should also point out that he should be the copyright holder for all Wee Warriors items, if the story is true.

That sequence makes sense to me, both chronologically and logistically.  

Not to throw sand in the works, but has anyone ever had problems setting up a username and password here?

No problems for me. I only have this one.
I'm no PurpleDragon, but there are a ton of things here that don't add up.
It really doesn't matter whether it is a bagged or foldered copy, it is still a 1st print. That being the case, who would want a bagged version?
I'm not going to call this guy a fraud or liar, but personally I find the statements and time frames way too far off. There is something fishy in Denmark.......

killjoy32 wrote:but at least we've got a good idea of the print sequence at long last.

A little bit better than before, perhaps, but there are a good number of obvious printing questions arising from previous observations- none of which appear to be on the list above (which is strange!).

I don't want to wear out Pete's goodwill too much, but I didn't hear back from Mike <IO> as to what angle he's taking compared with my own discussions.
(Just a quick check as to how many of the rest of us are sending over questions? Might defer until later if that's way too many, already ).

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aside @ Al: d'you remember the fun we had with the "Initial" JG dating?

well the only thing i really wanted to know was the print sequence...but we're getting there anyway...

plus like we did over the JG early days (which was quite good fun piecing it all together).....it would be nice to finally put the early days together so we all know once and for all.

i think what "pete" answered is prb along the right track, but hey that was 30 years ago and the timing doesnt quite go right for me. too much happening too quick, so a little more digging.

is there anyone else we could maybe ask to get some more insight?

harami2000 wrote:Anyone, please?

well its a bit late now my friend

look forward to lots of notes that youre gonna provide from your research

Al