FoulFoot wrote:OK, do we now have enough info to try and tie it all together into a new sequence, that will explain all the copies we've seen so far? I haven't followed it closely enough to make sure I'm accounting for the different versions people are reporting. Invincible?Foul
invincibleoverlord wrote:Both the bagged offset version and the Black-folder were done at the same time. I don't think someone would have done this twice. Paul could you cross check one of your Folder maps with a bagged one. Hold the two up against a light and my guess is their identical. Do the same with a double sided text page and a single...the same text's should line up as well, ones just printed on the other side.
stormber wrote:Howdy,They are identical. However (I can just hear the groans), the grey grid lines on the black-foldered-version maps are uniform. Under a magnifying glass the dots are a perfect half-tone pattern. To the naked eye, they appear as smooth gray lines. The grey grid on the yellow-cover-sheet-bagged-version is splotchy. Under a magnifying glass many of the dots of the half-tone lines bleed together or don't appear at all. When viewed with the naked eye the lines look splotchy and fade out altogether in a few spots.This suggests to me that either, the black-foldered version was printed using a virgin printing plate and the yellow-bagged version was printed using the same, worn/dirty printing plate at a later time OR the black-foldered version was printed using a virgin printing plate and the yellow-bagged version was printed using a different, inferior printing plate (poor exposure or paper as opposed to aluminum plates).Paul
stormber wrote:The grey grid on the yellow-cover-sheet-bagged-version is splotchy.
invincibleoverlord wrote:The graph you're seeing in the hatch-work is where the two offset printings on the same page (explained above) made a darker spot where these intersected (halftone graph/hatch-work). Therefore leaving an illusion of a graph.
afoolandhis$ wrote:Does anyone have any thoughts on the presence/absence of the border "scrollwork" in the foldered versions? The only scrollwork on my foldered verion is on the map pages.
killjoy32 wrote:afoolandhis$ wrote:Does anyone have any thoughts on the presence/absence of the border "scrollwork" in the foldered versions? The only scrollwork on my foldered verion is on the map pages.well my copy with the yellow front sheet, has the border "scrollwork" on it, as well as the maps....
mbassoc2003 wrote:killjoy32 wrote:well my copy with the yellow front sheet, has the border "scrollwork" on it, as well as the maps....I think it would be helpful for people to distinguish between a yellow cover first print and a yellow cover version with the tower on the front. I know Alan is talking about a yellow cover ziplocked first (no black folder). What yellow covers are the others being discussed? Which ones are folderless firsts and which are yellow tower covers?
killjoy32 wrote:well my copy with the yellow front sheet, has the border "scrollwork" on it, as well as the maps....
afoolandhis$ wrote:My other one is a black-foldered version, no yellow sheets.
mbassoc2003 wrote:afoolandhis$ wrote:My other one is a black-foldered version, no yellow sheets.This is the one I'm interested in. I had always assumed, maybe wrongly, that the scrollwork would have appeared on the Title/Background sheet as it does in the unfoldered version.
afoolandhis$ wrote:I'll see if I can get some info from Rick Bauer on where/when he got it.
harami2000 wrote:afoolandhis$ wrote:I'll see if I can get some info from Rick Bauer on where/when he got it.I'm still betting on that GenCon auction, as listed. (Would be good, if so!).