These lasted like 20 mins. Maybe someone just wanted to have them as is. I am guessing they are getting slabbed.


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CGC was hit with a reholder scam. Basically someone figured out how to get their case replaced, but with a lower grade comic. I am always surprised at the thousands of dollars in difference over a single point or a news stand version.

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/12454/

Yep, all they have is their credibility, which is why CGC will likely be buying all these comics. And yes, I am sure coffee has an impact right now.

Some folks are trying to remove the human element from grading. PSA, they only grade cards, bought a software company for $800 million that does the job. Basically a laser, or whatever, grades the card. It's apparently accurate enough to tell if the card comes back in to be re-graded. I would say a "finger print" but those apparently arent all that awesome. Some dont like the idea of course...on and on..tempest in a tea pot.

It is a "thing" though. You can buy the comic with the first appearance of Spider Man for $60,000 in a CGC 3.5. The 9.6 went for 3.5 million in 2022. I am not sure someone would pay $60 for a 3.5 S1 and I dont think 9.6 means anything to anyone right now. I am guessing the 6.0 S1 that sold for $600 went to a comics collector. They looked at the 1978 date, saw what was available and thought a 6.0 might be the top 3%.

Yea, its sort of like modern trading cards. Anything below a 9 might as well be cracked out of the slab to save weight for shipping. Modules might get a premium in a 6 or 7 , but so few are slabbed with even fewer buyers; it really is for "display purposes only."

That being said, I hope to send my next submission off next week!

Its already relisted. You can tell by the stains.

As a buyer and now a seller, I do agree, its a good idea to grade high end items regardless of condition. Break a 1-4 out of the case if you want to feel and read it. Dont break out a 8+, preserve these things. Or do, its your stuff, some of us will just be jealous for a day.

Side note: I bid $125 for a single page from the first appearance of spider man yesterday, it went for $197. A different page, that actually had spider man on it went for over $900. Its as close as I will ever get to a comic that went for 3.3 million in a 9.2. I wouldn't buy a single page of a comic without it being slabbed. I hope CGC and CBCS stay on their toes for authenticating so folks can have that kind of confidence.  It looks like its going to take a least a couple more years before grading DnD items catches on, if ever.

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Maku wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:The first seller and the second seller appear to be the same person.  Their locations are less than an hour apart, and there are several items concurrently listed by both sellers.

Interesting.  At least they somewhat admit there's a stain.  It's more than a small water mark on back cover.

I don't get jacking the BIN price up to nearly 2X what it sold for at auction, when it clearly sold for more than it was worth in that condition.

I am a little surprised at this grade.  It does have noticeable defects.. I have zero idea on pricing of slabbed items and their effects.  It definitely would not fetch the $300 being asked if it were not graded.

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That's the whole problem with grading and sealing stuff.
It has an inflated grade eaier by error or becasue thw company grading it has a financial insentive to do so, and the seller is trying to cash in on the idiots who believe in the system. The buyer has no means ever of checking the quality of what is sealed inside his little plastic box, and relies on the greater fool method of assessing and maintaining value. Every buyer has a vested interest in maintaining and talking up the prosess and subscribing to the faith, because once it is out that the values are wrong and the grading is flawed everything they have ever bought or had graded is also then brought into question. Is this not a shared delusion? When experienced buyers can see through the casing and tell that the buyer is misrepresenting what he is selling the seller?
I suppose the first reaction is maybe its a fake where the box has been openned and the module has been replaced with a lower quality copy?
Or maybe the company is just lowering its standards to encourage business and increase profits?
In which case, that then raises the question about the devaluing of all previously graded products also. If you lower the standards on an 8.5 grading, then everything previously graded 8.5 by default now has the same lower quality standards, even of the prodict sealed in aspect if a higher quality specifmin.

Badmike wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:
Frankly nothing under a 6.0 should be slabbed unless it's a rare, and unless it's rare or signed,

Mike B.

What are your thoughts on first print mono's? Those are a bit more rare with few in great condition.