killjoy32 wrote:hey ian and you said you were busy working eh of course you were my friend!
Deadlord36 wrote:I already gave my info. As far as I am concerned, there is only one 1st print, the foldered version.
Deadlord36 wrote:The 2nd printing was the one with the yellow cover sheet.
mbassoc2003 wrote:On to the question in hand. Do you think your copy was printed on a printing press, or run off on an early Xerox?
Deadlord36 wrote:Wait a minute, now I'm confused. You say that the Acaeum version is correct, yet you consider the yellow-cover version a 2nd print.... If someone with a black folder version performs your test, and the pages are the same, then it would probably mean a single run.We shouldn't consider it as evidence or fact? What "evidence or fact" has ever been presented to say that the "unfoldered" version is the first print? It wasn't "a friend of a friend", it was a man I spoke with personally.Gah, this is why I was not even going to bring up the conversation I had with him. Now everyone with an unfoldered version will chirp in and insist that it was the first. Next time someone asks me why I say the black-folder is a 1st print, I say nothing.So what you are looking for is for someone with a 1st print, I mean black foldered version, to subject it to the same test?
mbassoc2003 wrote:Deadlord36 wrote:Wait a minute, now I'm confused. You say that the Acaeum version is correct, yet you consider the yellow-cover version a 2nd print.... If someone with a black folder version performs your test, and the pages are the same, then it would probably mean a single run.We shouldn't consider it as evidence or fact? What "evidence or fact" has ever been presented to say that the "unfoldered" version is the first print? It wasn't "a friend of a friend", it was a man I spoke with personally.Gah, this is why I was not even going to bring up the conversation I had with him. Now everyone with an unfoldered version will chirp in and insist that it was the first. Next time someone asks me why I say the black-folder is a 1st print, I say nothing.So what you are looking for is for someone with a 1st print, I mean black foldered version, to subject it to the same test?I suspect there were two separate printings of the 8.5"x11" version of PoVQ. I believe the first generation prints were printed from a single master paste up, and that any selecation of coloured paper of duplexing was done by hand. I suspect ther second print run (labeled as 3rd printing by Acaeum) was a small print run done to test the waters to see whether the product was worth remarketing, and that this print run was done with auto-dupleexing on more advanced Xerox machines than the first.
afoolandhis$ wrote:So where would that place the black-foldered version?
Deadlord36 wrote:I think that sounds logical. The yellow-cover version is much rarer.
mbassoc2003 wrote:That would make the one Stephen just bought the second printing, probably the rarest, only being produced before TSR decided whether or not to commit to typesetting and printing the module in booklet form.