Holmes Basic and Keep on the Borderlands 1979
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:38 am 
 

According to https://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/basic.html (some of) the sixth and (all of) the seventh printing of the Holmes Basic Set came out in Nov/Dec 1979 and included the Keep on the Borderlands.

On the B1/B2 page however it gives KotB as being 1980.

The copyright notice in the first print was 1980, and the first contemporary reference to it that I have been able to find is a mention in the news section in White Dwarf in August 1980 which says it "is a new basic D&D module just released"

Does anyone have any evidence for it being published in 1979?

  


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:57 am 
 

Joe,

Take a look at the following thread, which is what led to the B2 page being updated to 1980 by Foulfoot:
B2 First printing date. Source?

Short answer is that Frank Mentzer started working in Jan 1980, and he worked on the module, so there's no way that it came out in 1979. The Holmes Basic set page should probably be annotated to note that while the rulebook is dated Dec 1979, versions of the set with B2 could not have been released until 1980.

You can see a longer version of Frank's story here (formerly on the Eldritch Enterprises site, now archived on the Internet Archive):
https://web.archive.org/web/20140326234 ... /ouat.aspx

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:27 am 
 

I just edited the Basic Set page to correct those dates, which was an oversight.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:09 am 
 

Zenopus wrote in Holmes Basic and Keep on the Borderlands 1979:Joe,

Take a look at the following thread, which is what led to the B2 page being updated to 1980 by Foulfoot:
B2 First printing date. Source? • Collecting General •  The Acaeum

Short answer is that Frank Mentzer started working in Jan 1980, and he worked on the module, so there's no way that it came out in 1979. The Holmes Basic set page should probably be annotated to note that while the rulebook is dated Dec 1979, versions of the set with B2 could not have been released until 1980.

You can see a longer version of Frank's story here (formerly on the Eldritch Enterprises site, now archived on the Internet Archive):
https://web.archive.org/web/20140326234 ... /ouat.aspx

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Thanks Zenopus. I googled The Acaeum and found a thousand hits but not that one!

FoulFoot wrote in Holmes Basic and Keep on the Borderlands 1979:I just edited the Basic Set page to correct those dates, which was an oversight.

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Thanks FoulFoot.

I will give the correct date on https://explorebeneathandbeyond.blogspot.com/ in my listing of 70s modules, and explain where the erroneous '79 date came from.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:16 pm 
 

In brief, I wrote the Church for the Keep; Gary had omitted one.
It was one of my earliest projects as a 1st year editor, 1980. Prolly came out by April.

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