Deadlord36 wrote:Now from what you just said about I12, if $5 PDF's are available, does that not hurt the value of the original?The whole debate about PDf sellers hurting the market was just summed up by you, mbassoc2003. It's not the high-end items that suffer, it is the low-midrange ones.
bclarkie wrote:As a note too, and I am by no means an attorney, but I am pretty sure that according to US copyright laws, that although it is legal for you to make a pdf/copy for your own private use, that if/when you sell or get rid of the actual item that you have copied, that legally, you are required to destroy the copy of the item(s) that you have made. Otherwise you be infringing upon the copyright of the item.
mbassoc2003 wrote: nor am I permitted to use it.
bclarkie wrote:mbassoc2003 wrote: nor am I permitted to use it.I am not trying to be a smart a$$, but if you can't use it by law then what is the purpose of having it in the first place? I mean as I stated previously it would be almost impossible for anyone of importance to find out, but still....
bclarkie wrote:As a note too, and I am by no means an attorney, but I am pretty sure that according to US copyright laws, that although it is legal for you to make a pdf/copy for your own private use, that if/when you sell or get rid of the actual item that you have copied, that legally, you are required to destroy the copy of the item(s) that you have made. Otherwise you be infringing upon the copyright of the item. Now granted it would be almost impossible to track that sort of thing, particularly in written format, I believe that is how the law reads.
mbassoc2003 wrote:It's kinda like making it illegal to use or sell drugs, but not illegal to own them. If you're a seller you could only ever be prosecuted for selling a single fix, and as ownership is not a crime, there is no such thing as intent to supply.
patweb wrote:>>I know that I am permitted under Scottish Law to own pirate software on CD, even if I do not own, nor have ever owned the original.<<Can you point to evidence of this? I find it hard to believe. Ignorance of the law is no excuse .
patweb wrote:Regardless of the ability or motivation for local law to prosecute for infringement of INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY PROTECTION LAWS AND TREATIES, it is still illegal.I live right next to FRY's and can buy any software I want, legally. I can also go to a freinds house and copy his, illegally.With regard to books on PDF, I find it hard to believe that we are really talking about the window of time in which you claim to have bought a book and the time it arrives that you are complaining about having to pay $5 for.Scotland is covered under UK laws of International Intellectual property and copyright laws, as well as those laws imposed by the European Union.Just because a majority in Edinburg choose to ignore those LAW's, they are still criminal's in the intent to circumvent International treaties and the laws of the UK.Perhaps this explains why there aren't many Scotish scholars and programmers? HEHE, just kidding .
