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Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:30 am 
 

Well, I guess bclarkie has resolved my dilemma for me.   :D

  


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Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:52 am 
 

Hmmm.  I just won one of eclavdra's auctions a couple of days ago.  Fortunately it doesn't seem that algolong participated in the auction.  I hope this isn't a sign of other problems with this seller.

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Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:04 pm 
 

NetRodent wrote:Hmmm. I just won one of eclavdra's auctions a couple of days ago. Fortunately it doesn't seem that algolong participated in the auction. I hope this isn't a sign of other problems with this seller.




Not in my experience.  He apparently was "out of town" for the two weeks immediately following the close of his auctions for mine, so it took him a while to ship the module, but when it did finally show up it was exactly as described.



If this guy did shill his auctions, I think it was because he panicked that all his stuff was going way below value.  Once he took care of that, everything else seemed hunky dory.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:38 pm 
 

I just had to charge back studionellc.


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Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:44 pm 
 

Well, I'm irritated today myself.  Got an email from paypal regarding my "partial refund" issue from a couple of weeks back.  They "granted" my claim, but said I've already been refunded so I got no refund.  Guess I'm out the $10 or so.  I was so irritated I went ahead and left the negative f/b I had been debating about.  Ah well.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:44 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:
Possibly, I guess, but unlikely. The seller has a perfect record with well over 1000 positive feedback...I doubt they'd risk that kind of status for $13 or so. Also, the other bidder is overbidding the common bidding amounts ($22.50, $25.00) -- if you're shilling you wanna go under them, because you really don't want to win, you want to push up the bid but still lose.



More than likely, you've just got some new competition that bumped up the bid a couple times, then realized he was outgunned. He's dealt with that seller before, and has them on their favorites list because of the quality service. Well, that's my read, anyway.




I'm agreed with Deimos here. I think some folks here forget that there are occasionally new eBayers. Most new eBayers that I've dealt with don't go jumping all over the place from seller to seller throwing money around. I had a guy about a year back who only bought from me for several months, before he started buying from other folks when I ran out of stuff he wanted.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:32 pm 
 

Just a note about Creep - I bought some miniatures from him, and they arrived short two cards, and with many of the cards pretty beat up (bad packaging). Took 17 days from payment until it was shipped, and paid $23 for $7 postage. So, I wasn't too pleased.



But, I politely emailed him about what had happened, and received a very large refund. More than I would have refunded myself, and quite a bit more than I expected.



Honestly, I think he's a good guy. Not doing a great job, but I find it really hard to believe that there's any malice, or even any particular avarice, in what he does. He screwed up, and more than made up for the mistake.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:58 pm 
 

Speaking of Creep, looks like someone took a shot at him again today:



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Who ever is doing it, also took a swipe at Zabe73 today as well. This is starting to make me think that it is maybe someone from here doing it, but I don't have a clue as to who it could be. Anyone want to claim responsibility?


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:09 am 
 

NetRodent wrote:Hmmm. I just won one of eclavdra's auctions a couple of days ago. Fortunately it doesn't seem that algolong participated in the auction. I hope this isn't a sign of other problems with this seller.




   I just lost an Eclavdra auction.  A guy named algolong bid on it, as did another guy with a Seattle name...hballard.



   Hmm.


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Who ever is doing it, also took a swipe at Zabe73 today as well. This is starting to make me think that it is maybe someone from here doing it, but I don't have a clue as to who it could be. Anyone want to claim responsibility?




yeah i saw another auction unconnected to them, with that ebayer "screwthemiddleman" on it too....he/she is no longer registered now anyway.



no need at all for that lameness really.



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Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:59 pm 
 

I asked Eclavdra directly about the possibly shilling by algonal.  Here is her answer:



<<<Ahhh I see, well yes he is a friend of mine and he has bid on a few of my auctions (and by my count won four) although he is legit. He's part of my former role-playing group and expressed interest in my stuff when I told him I was bagging on RPGs. I've sold him a bunch of stuff on the side and he usually tries to get things for a song on Ebay if he sees them. If I really wanted to bid bump I'd just call one of my out of state buds to run up the price. I've sold a lot of stuff recently for considerably less than what it's worth, I've already made my money back on all the big ticket stuff I've sold over the years and all I want to do now is clear my crap out (which is why most of the stuff is a buck). If people want to gossip I could give a shit I've been on ebay for 7+ years and my feedback speaks for itself. If you want more Judges Guild stuff I'm putting the last of it up tonight (although I may be parting with my coveted Invincible Overlord stuff in the near future if I get the whim).  Thanks for the message. RD>>>



    Pretty good reply, I'd say.   8)


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:14 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:I asked Eclavdra directly about the possibly shilling by algonal. Here is her answer:



<<<Ahhh I see, well yes he is a friend of mine and he has bid on a few of my auctions (and by my count won four) although he is legit. He's part of my former role-playing group and expressed interest in my stuff when I told him I was bagging on RPGs. I've sold him a bunch of stuff on the side and he usually tries to get things for a song on Ebay if he sees them. If I really wanted to bid bump I'd just call one of my out of state buds to run up the price. I've sold a lot of stuff recently for considerably less than what it's worth, I've already made my money back on all the big ticket stuff I've sold over the years and all I want to do now is clear my crap out (which is why most of the stuff is a buck). If people want to gossip I could give a shit I've been on ebay for 7+ years and my feedback speaks for itself. If you want more Judges Guild stuff I'm putting the last of it up tonight (although I may be parting with my coveted Invincible Overlord stuff in the near future if I get the whim). Thanks for the message. RD>>>



 Pretty good reply, I'd say. 8)




This is proabably a stupid question, but why would you ask a seller if they are bidding on their own items on EBay. First off, do you really think that they would ever say yes??? I can see it now: "Why yes mister bidder who I have absolutely no idea who you are, but I am most certainly violating one of EBays most serious rules by bidding on my own auctions with a different user ID."  Secondly, I don't see how the answer that was given was that much better anyway. He/She basically is saying that they have sold to this person off EBay, so why would they not continue to do so, rather than put the stuff up, pay EBay fees and risk selling it to them at less than you really want for it.  THe seller basically contradicts themselves by saying that they dont really care how much they get for it, yet they wont sell it to this person whom they know off ebay for any amount. Doesnt make much sense to me. :?


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:16 pm 
 

Actually, Eclavdra's answer sounds entirely believable to me, and her reasoning about how she would shill her own auctions (assuming it is a her) seems entirely sound.   8)


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:17 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Actually, Eclavdra's answer sounds entirely believable to me, and her reasoning about how she would shill her own auctions (assuming it is a her) seems entirely sound. 8)




*<points to my above ammended post>*



If you believe every story that EBay sellers tell you then jonb has a bridge in Brooklyn he wants to sell you.


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Post Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:45 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:
MShipley88 wrote:Actually, Eclavdra's answer sounds entirely believable to me, and her reasoning about how she would shill her own auctions (assuming it is a her) seems entirely sound. 8)




*<points to my above ammended post>*



If you believe every story that EBay sellers tell you then jonb has a bridge in Brooklyn he wants to sell you.




It seems that ebay didn't believe the story either.  Eclavdra is no longer a registered user, nor is algolong.



:D   Well done, Brian.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:56 am 
 

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It seems that ebay didn't believe the story either. Eclavdra is no longer a registered user, nor is algolong.



:D Well done, Brian.




Good to hear. :)  I am sure though that she will probably be back up and running again in a month or so, as eBay will typically gives a seller of that magnitude with no apparent history of problems a 2nd chance. Hopefully, however this will prevent it from happening again. If she is so stupid as to do it again though and someone reports her, eBay will kick her as off for good.


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Post Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:00 am 
 

I guess that makes me an innocent.  All of my Ebay experiences so far have been really positive.  



    Even Eclavdra seems like  a pretty small-time villain....bumping her auction up from .99 to 3.99 or so.  



    I wanted that Restormel, however.   :cry:


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MShipley88 wrote:I guess that makes me an innocent. All of my Ebay experiences so far have been really positive.



  Even Eclavdra seems like a pretty small-time villain....bumping her auction up from .99 to 3.99 or so.



  I wanted that Restormel, however.  :cry:




hey MS i got a load of restormel's lying around...in fact i have shitloads of stuff lying around cos i don't have the time to sort them :D



  

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:38 am 
 

Have a look at this auction....



cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Aibo-111-210-311-ERS- ... dZViewItem



Maybe we should use this tactic with some of the shadier sellers  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:



Some titles we could start with ....  :wink:





How To Recognise When an Item is Listed for Too Much - just for you Creep



How To Recognise a Shifty Seller - just for you Empty Treasure Chest

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:34 am 
 

improvstone wrote:Have a look at this auction....



cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Aibo-111-210-311-ERS- ... dZViewItem



Maybe we should use this tactic with some of the shadier sellers :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



Some titles we could start with .... :wink:





How To Recognise When an Item is Listed for Too Much - just for you Creep



How To Recognise a Shifty Seller - just for you Empty Treasure Chest




I think this one meets just about all the criteria of the above listed auction. 8O



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