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Post Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:49 pm 
 

To laziness and selfishness I would also add dumb-a-tudity.  (My own word, coined just for this posting.)   8)



   If you must rip off someone else's description, why not make enough changes to make it your own?   :?



   I mean, the fact that an item features X and Y and that it is edition Z is not private property.  Why not just steal the facts and re-write the description?


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:55 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:If you can figure out how to sell on ebay, you can write your own damn descriptions.



I take the time to make mine unique and informative. For someone to rip that off is simply bullshit. This is not an agrument about making an item sell for a higher price, but personalization of sales. Some may like my presentation, others not. But the effort I make to build a point-of-sale listing should not be up for someone to rip it off.




I don't know about you guys, but, I typically just use the back cover as the description, quoting it exactly, it amazes me how many people will not only rip that off but your entire paragraph of personalized text that accompanies it.  Two prolems in our socieity, Laziness and Selfishness, again rear their ugly head.



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Post Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:25 pm 
 

For a good chunk of the stuff I'm selling, I just use the back-cover text as well. I'll cut/paste it from another source if one is easily available, and then make whatever formatting changes I want to make.



I can see someone being upset over stealing a customised description, that'd tick me off too. But I wouldn't be upset if someone "stole" the text I already "stole" from the back of the book I'm selling :P

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:31 pm 
 

I just make my back cover scans so large that anyone can read the description for themselves . . . saves my some typing time and lets buyers get the "feel" of shopping for the item in a store.


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:14 pm 
 

I need a little help.  I won this auction.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8328169622



The seller has not sent the item.  It has been 1 month.  He at one point said that it would be in the mail tomorrow.  That was 2 weeks ago.  Since then he has not replied to my many emails both thru ebay and regular email attempts.  



I would like to hear from you what course of action or actions I should take.  This is a T1st DMG in fantastic condition from a seller with a 100% feedback rating.  I would really like to have the DMG, but believe that will never happen.  This is the first time a seller has blantantly screwed me.  So your suggestion would be much apprieciated.



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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:46 pm 
 

Prufrock wrote:I need a little help. I won this auction.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 8328169622



The seller has not sent the item. It has been 1 month. He at one point said that it would be in the mail tomorrow. That was 2 weeks ago. Since then he has not replied to my many emails both thru ebay and regular email attempts.



I would like to hear from you what course of action or actions I should take. This is a T1st DMG in fantastic condition from a seller with a 100% feedback rating. I would really like to have the DMG, but believe that will never happen. This is the first time a seller has blantantly screwed me. So your suggestion would be much apprieciated.



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I would still be patient This auction only ended 17 days ago and its entirely possible that if it was end media mail that it is still in transit. Secondly, are you even sure that this a True 1st print DMG, that scan seems like it is trimmed to the point where it may not be a 1st print.  The thing in the acution description that scares me most is the Revised Edition designation :?


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:49 pm 
 

Not sure if that's a true 1st.  Usually when the seller puts "Revised" in the description, it's because they've seen that on the copyright page.  Photo appears cropped as well.



I'd give it more time, too.  Good luck.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:18 pm 
 

afoolandhis$ wrote:Not sure if that's a true 1st. Usually when the seller puts "Revised" in the description, it's because they've seen that on the copyright page. Photo appears cropped as well.



I'd give it more time, too. Good luck.


That is certainly a T1st, assuming the photo is of the actual item (as I mentioned via a PM to Prufrock not long ago). You can tell by looking at the location of the wizard logo -- it's squarely overtop the blue-robed figure's foot. The word "revised" made me wary that it's not a genuine photo, though.  



[edit](Also the mention of the ISBN)



I'd be patient as well -- sometimes stuff is just plain slow.  ;)

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:51 pm 
 

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afoolandhis$ wrote:Not sure if that's a true 1st. Usually when the seller puts "Revised" in the description, it's because they've seen that on the copyright page. Photo appears cropped as well.



I'd give it more time, too. Good luck.


That is certainly a T1st, assuming the photo is of the actual item (as I mentioned via a PM to Prufrock not long ago). You can tell by looking at the location of the wizard logo -- it's squarely overtop the blue-robed figure's foot. The word "revised" made me wary that it's not a genuine photo, though.



[edit](Also the mention of the ISBN)



I'd be patient as well -- sometimes stuff is just plain slow. ;)




I noticed that as well, except my computer at works monitor sucks, so it is wicked dark. As far as that picture goes, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have seen that photo before. The reason I have seen that photo before is because it comes from right here:



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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:13 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:
deimos3428 wrote:
That is certainly a T1st, assuming the photo is of the actual item (as I mentioned via a PM to Prufrock not long ago). You can tell by looking at the location of the wizard logo -- it's squarely overtop the blue-robed figure's foot. The word "revised" made me wary that it's not a genuine photo, though.



[edit](Also the mention of the ISBN)



I'd be patient as well -- sometimes stuff is just plain slow. ;)




I noticed that as well, except my computer at works monitor sucks, so it is wicked dark. As far as that picture goes, and I [u]hate[u/] to be the bearer of bad news, but I have seen that photo before. The reason I have seen that photo before is because it comes from right here:



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:(


Dang, I knew that photo looked familiar... in that case, the seller flat-out lied, because IIRC, Prufrock mentioned that he asked if it was the photo of the exact book, and the seller said that it was.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:22 pm 
 

Prufrock wrote:I need a little help. I won this auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 8328169622


bclarkie wrote:As far as that picture goes, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have seen that photo before...




:( :( :(



Not the first person to be suckered by dishonest sellers reusing images against eBay rules (aside from anything else)

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(The "1st PHB" seller I fell foul of also has a 100% feedback record).



Sorry to hear that and hope you get all your money back without a retalitory neg, Prufrock...

  

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:57 pm 
 

Okay guys,  looks like I got taken.  Thought it was too good to be true.  I will wait one more week and then go thru the "Dispute Console" on eBay.



I did my research and looked up the DMG's here on the website but never equated the photo here with the auction photo.  And I did ask him if the photo was the item being sold and he said it was.  



Nice detective work guys!  Could have been worse, I only lost $30 but would have really like to have a T1st in that condition.  



Anyway, Thanks guys.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:13 am 
 

Check out this auction:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1



And the bidding history:



eBay.com Item Bid History



tauglorimorgorus the seemingly endless pit of money retracted his bid on this this morning as it was bid all the way up to $192.50. He waited 3 days to this. Seems like rather rather odd behavior from someone who has basically refused to get outbid on anything regardless of the total final bid. However when you take a closer look you can kind of put A and B together. Looking at tauglorimorgorus' most recent feedback and the answer seems to present itself pretty clearly:



eBay Feedback Profile for tauglorimorgorus



Look who tauglorimorgorus just recently dealt with. Well, its none other than everyones favorite Cougie Kitty. Who here wants to bet me that Cougar saw how high that auction was and offered to sell him a shrinked H1 off EBay for someting like $175.00 at a huge discount. :roll: I would be willing to bet some serious cash on this one. Any takers???


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:22 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:Look who tauglorimorgorus just recently dealt with. Well, its nother than everyones favorite Cougie Kitty. Who here wants to bet me that Cougar saw how high that auction was and offered to sell him a shrinked H1 off EBay for someting like $175.00 at a huge discount. :roll: I would be willing to bet some seroous cash on this one. Any takers???


Wonder whether Mike <improv> did so as well, if that was the case! :o



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Post Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:30 am 
 

harami2000 wrote:Wonder whether Mike <improv> did so as well, if that was the case! :o

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David, as the person on this forum who has known me the longest you should know better.   :wink:  



I would rather see Brian win the H1 at a reasonable rate!

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:52 am 
 

improvstone wrote:David, as the person on this forum who has known me the longest you should know better. :wink:


*chuckles*. sry ^^



improvstone wrote:I would rather see Brian win the H1 at a reasonable rate!


Yeah, rather spoiled things for the seller and the run of the auction, though. :(



(aside @ Brian: you've got a bit of a "chain" of high bids there, now... D'you want to pull that and start over? Plenty of time and I've left a "marker" bid, if so ;)).

  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:04 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:Check out this auction:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1



And the bidding history:



eBay.com Item Bid History



tauglorimorgorus the seemingly endless pit of money retracted his bid on this this morning as it was bid all the way up to $192.50. He waited 3 days to this. Seems like rather rather odd behavior from someone who has basically refused to get outbid on anything regardless of the total final bid. However when you take a closer look you can kind of put A and B together. Looking at tauglorimorgorus' most recent feedback and the answer seems to present itself pretty clearly:



eBay Feedback Profile for tauglorimorgorus



Look who tauglorimorgorus just recently dealt with. Well, its none other than everyones favorite Cougie Kitty. Who here wants to bet me that Cougar saw how high that auction was and offered to sell him a shrinked H1 off EBay for someting like $175.00 at a huge discount. :roll: I would be willing to bet some serious cash on this one. Any takers???




Yes indeed, I'd say it looks as if coutie - I mean cougie - smelled fresh whale meat and went harpooning.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:27 am 
 

harami2000 wrote:
(aside @ Brian: you've got a bit of a "chain" of high bids there, now... D'you want to pull that and start over? Plenty of time and I've left a "marker" bid, if so ;)).




No, I am going to leave my proxy bid as it is, but thanks for the offer :wink: . The seller already has to be wondering what the hell is going when the top 2 bidders on the auction have cancelled, let alone the top 3 8O. I bid that proxy with the decision that I would be willing to pay that amount to win so, even though I am a bit vulnerable to the *jack up* bids, I can live with it especially in lieu of the current circumstances. I can tell you that I will not be bidding any further though, so if anyone was paying attention to that auction probably knows what my high bid is and can snipe away. :twisted:


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