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Post Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:45 pm 
 

ether would work I think....

The guys all over my auctions, and the put thinks frankly I really don't want to deal with his bullshit. I know he reads this forum he's just too much of a pussy to post hense the name couger....

I'm really thinking about blocking him he's bidding on 60 or so of my items, I really don't care if he bids but if he wins I'm gonna have to deal with the guy and reading his feedback and everything I have hear about him makes me not want to have to deal with him.....

So what would you do? I really don't mind him pushing up bids, I'd be happy to sell to him if he wins but I don't want to deal with any bullshit and we all know he is full of it..

  


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:48 pm 
 

draco76 wrote:ether would work I think....

The guys all over my auctions, and the put thinks frankly I really don't want to deal with his bullshit. I know he reads this forum he's just too much of a pussy to post hense the name couger....

I'm really thinking about blocking him he's bidding on 60 or so of my items, I really don't care if he bids but if he wins I'm gonna have to deal with the guy and reading his feedback and everything I have hear about him makes me not want to have to deal with him.....

So what would you do? I really don't mind him pushing up bids, I'd be happy to sell to him if he wins but I don't want to deal with any bullshit and we all know he is full of it..


Just wait until you get his emails if you haven't already..... :roll:


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:04 pm 
 

A brief thank you to you all, for  letting me stand in the shadows , watch, and listen. I cant stop laughing half the time, the other half the time  I'm saying "hey that's the guy who sniped me for a penny--how the hell did he do that?" Anyhow,the most important thing to learn here, that you all have taught me, is that there IS a level of trust and respect between ALL collectors,  but there are some "Sellers" out there who rather rip someone off for a quick buck, then sell honestly and keep buyers coming back again and again. Well, now that this section is going to be posted, maybe you could have like a "Seller of the week" or something?LOL

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:56 pm 
 

To echo the previous post a little, I second the thanks. Also, I was pleasantly surprised and greatly relieved to come here to find that most of you don't really care for cougar. I've never dealt with him, but I've seen how he treats people simply via feedback retaliation and hassling... That, coupled with how back when I was working on my book collection he always had his mitts on *everything* (and still does, I see), he grew to be a bit of a secret ebay nemesis of mine. ;P (even more now that I hear stories from you all) My friend and I bid on a few things just because we didn't want to see him win. It's nice to know that it wasn't just me, and that it's a shared opinion. >:}

I'm watching that PS set of yours that's up, Draco, that he's bidding on, too. Just because I don't want him to have it. ;) *crosses fingers*


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:03 pm 
 

belial418 wrote: Well, now that this section is going to be posted, maybe you could have like a "Seller of the week" or something? LOL


"Seller of the week"
Good idea actually, but most weeks it would be this guy.

He is one of the top sellers on E-Bay for D&D and he is exceedingly knowledgeable about the items he sells, he is very easy to deal with, he will combine shipping, and has some of the nicest (And rarest) items you will EVER see on E-Bay.

Drum roll please.......

"Seller of the week, for the week of........."

umm... ...

Enough stalling already, just pick any week for Pete's sake!

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Yep... I have even heard rumors that he is a nice guy too.

He even posts on this forum on the rare occasion in another guise.....

(OK, so can I have my payment now? The one with the Folder will do nicely thanks...... :wink:  :D )


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:27 pm 
 

I'll let his bids stand this week, hopfully someone will just outbid him and I won't have to deal with him, and if I do he better not give me any bullshit.  I may be a "reseller" to an extent but I'd personally rather sell to someone who is gonna use it/collect the items rather then have the stuff go to couger have it marked up 2x and put back on ebay.  

here's what I got up tis week.   eBay listings

feel free to outbid couger lol hell if someone here takes the majority of the little crap away from him I'll ship for free in usa.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:19 am 
 

If you block "him" though you can expect something like this. . . (these emails were from back in November, but I never posted them here yet.) Some pretty funny stuff in his reply. . . :D

First Email

I would like to buy it now on all the challenges you have listed but you have blocked me from bidding/buying, may I ask why? I am a titanium powerseller 3396 rated?


My Response

Hi Dave,
I believe your name is Dave? Sorry if I got it
wrong. The reason I blocked you is that the only
items I sell that you would be interested in are those
that you generally try to "corner" the market on -
things like H1-4, Greyhawk items, Silver anniversary
boxed sets, Dragons of Glory, Planescape, etc.

Of course, you are entitled to use whatever business
practices you like in order to succeed, however I find
it somewhat distasteful to see you constantly jacking
up the prices of things like Bloodstone Pass - then
when selling them yourself, you set very high reserves
to get back your investment. Even when you don't win,
bidding on these items causes the final sales price to
be consistently higher for everyone.

So, I feel that it is in my best interests to "block"
you. I don't want those who bid on my items to see
that they are bidding against Cougarrinard for an H
series module they want - it might discourage them
from bidding. Further, I would rather sell an item
for a few dollars less than see it resold by you for
an unreasonable amount of money.

I hope that doesn't sound too harsh - I am not trying
to insult you. . . however, that is the reason I have
you blocked and you did ask. . .

Feel free to email me back if you like - I have
nothing against you personally and hope you don't
resent me for my reasons.

Take care,

Paul




His Reply

thank you for the reply, very honest & open.
I wonder do you also block the other big names like darksaraphim, guico
the
gypsy, badmike books? or is it just me that your descriminating
against?
While I do sort of understand your reasons, I can see no advantage in
blocking one of the (and soon to be the) biggest D&D traders on Ebay.
It
would certainly help up the prices of your item if nothing else? I
am
almost sure that we have dealt successfully with each other previously,
and
blocking me becasue i may resell or make a profit seems anti-
commercial to
me? If everyone did this there would be no trade in th efree world
atall?
Manufacrturers would not seel their product for fear that wholesallers
may
turn a profit, wholesaller swould not pas anything onto retailers, and
consumers well the'd starve, but probably die of boredom first?
I do respect that you have the right to block/stop trading with anyone
you
choose, I just feel that as a titanium powerseller with 3395 rating I
am
being voctimised because of my hard work (& it has been hard sometimes
building my business from zero to what it is now) and feeling like
that if
i was a newbie or a not so hard working small business man I would not
have
ben put on stop and we would not be having this conversation?
Again I thank you for your honesty & the reply
--dave



My Final Reply

Dave,
Actually, I don't block any of the other resellers.
. . but I am not discriminating against you. First
off, I am a reseller myself and don't sell "lots". The
few items that I offer that may be of interest to
another reseller always end of going for more than
they would be willing to pay anyway. You are the only
reseller who will bid exceptional amounts of money for
items - sometimes far in excess of what they normally
go for. I realize that this is because of three
reasons: The exchange rate of the GBP, the fact that
you are willing to set high reserves on certain items
and also the fact that you sell independently outside
of eBay.

I could care less if another were to bid on my items
and resell for more money. The difference here is
that you try to control the market on certain items.
Let's take the most common example: H1. You
consistently have one for auction with an extremely
high reserve set much higher than many are willing to
bid. Most regular collectors refuse to pay such a
high price and it is only the uniformed who tend bid
what you are looking for. Furthermore, you
persistently bid on every H1 that is offered for
auction - but because you set such a high reserve for
your own resale, you bid exceptionally high when
trying to purchase. Other resellers are priced out as
are many potential buyers.

In the end, this helps only your own selling needs.
Since this is a free market, I have determined that my
own needs are best served by not encouraging this
method of buying/selling. I have carved out my own
little "niche" of selling accurately described items
for reasonable prices with low shipping costs. In the
end, I do fairly well. I accurately represent the
hobby and the current collector market and have 100%
positive feedback.

Your methods may best  suit someone who is listing
hundreds of items, but my selling goals are on a much
smaller scale. As much as I do this to make some
extra money, I enjoy selling and redistributing RPG
items. It's not all about making cash - this is as
much my hobby as a business.

My blocking you is just a drop in the bucket - it
doesn't really affect you at all. I have blocked
others who demonstrate business practices that I
disapprove.

(Incidentally, we haven't ever conducted business
together - I am sure you are a reliable seller/buyer -
my reasons are different, as I am sure I have just
explained)

Paul


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:56 am 
 

Hehe, won my H1 this year without a single bid from Cougar  8O


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:07 am 
 

Oh noes! You're contributing to the decay of the economy and ruining consumerism as we know it! People will starve! You heartless fiend. :lol:


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:33 am 
 

Azurah wrote:Oh noes! You're contributing to the decay of the economy and ruining consumerism as we know it! People will starve! You heartless fiend. :lol:

:lol:   He admitted his evil plan back there, wonder if anyone else noticed:

I can see no advantage in blocking one of the (and soon to be the) biggest D&D traders on Ebay.

He's trying to go for an eBay monopoly, which won't work, unless he's a billionaire.  But should that happen, you'll never see anything cheap again.  

I've emailed him in the past with item questions and am actually on decent terms with him, unlike most people here.  I'm on his mailing list, which is far too frequent and disorganized.  Someone mentioned something about arrogance, essentially Cougar thinks we don't know anything about D&D item valuation.  (Harami, shhh.  Different thread.  :wink: )

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:56 am 
 

i've always got on well with him personally. I will get stuff from him from time to time. In the end, i know how much money i have and if i cant afford something, then well tough. Eventually you WILL price yourself away from the market. IF i desperately wanted something and the price was massively uplifted for reasons easily seen, i just simply wouldnt get it, because i wouldnt be able to justify it for myself and i can be very patient - i WILL eventually get something i am after. I am like BTB - i would much rather trade with ppl, give em what they want, be happy with the price and everyone ends up happy. you have the odd occasions where it doesnt work that way (sadly), but thats life.

whiles its a free world - you can be as much a capitalist as you want to be. in the end, it will always lead to your downfall, but thats an individuals choice. shame really tho - he has some fab stuff and i would love to get my hands on some of it, but certainly not at that cost!

my next target is R3 and R4, but no doubt a long long looooong wait is to be had for them :)



  


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:21 am 
 

Has anyone ever seen cougar sell sell one of his precious H1 boxes? I watched a dozen rounds or so, and none of them ever sold.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:25 am 
 

Ralf Toth wrote:Has anyone ever seen cougar sell sell one of his precious H1 boxes? I watched a dozen rounds or so, and none of them ever sold.


i bidded up to £48 once and "reserve not met" - would have gone to £50 but nope. it might be worth more or whatever, but i just couldnt justify paying more, so didnt :)

must be nice sat on loads of them tho.

funny tho. i was sat talking to my girlfriend last night and said "if i was a millionaire, i would just msg all the collectors on acaeum and buy their collections direct" - bypass all the problems and bidding totally :)

mind you, THEN i would need a bigger house to store it :)



  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:35 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
Ralf Toth wrote:...."if i was a millionaire, i would just msg all the collectors on acaeum and buy their collections direct" - bypass all the problems and bidding totally :)


If only I could........... :cry:


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:50 am 
 

If I were a millionaire, I'd be asking EGG to publish Castle Greyhawk. But then he's probably a millionaire and not too interested in doing so.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:11 pm 
 

Just to alert everyone:

Dear eyeamgawd,

Wow- the dud lord actually bought something from me. I thought you had it all? Still building your collection I see. Shipping must not have been too high for your majesty. I knew you were full of shit. Just a jealous prick. Have a nice day. Maxwell-Maxie-whatever else your dumbass can come up with.

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a. buy his own lots to increase his pathetic feedback.
b. boost auction prices.

Be warned. He has porked Jocelyn and a few other sellers. I'm going to report him to eBay.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:12 pm 
 

Looks like he screwed Epicrates, Imperial Sniper and dkhobbies as well.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:19 pm 
 

You could also forward that message to eBay. It contains offensive content and that is a violation of eBay rules. Maxi-Pad will get another mark against his name. Too many accumulated marks and they boot you regardless of how much they get from your sales.

If you send in different complaints about different aspects of his trading/abuse, they go to different teams and are dealt with by different peeps... ergo, more black marks against him.

I got a warning for abusing eBay's message system. I called a guy an asshole for selling PDFs :D and he complained about me.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:21 pm 
 

No biggie, I already sunk him. If I get one more "I'll kick your ass" e-mail, however, I'll be hopping a plane. Sick of Internet Conans.
He shilled well over 20 auctions.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:24 pm 
 

Here's an idea. Next guy we see selling PDFs on eBay, one of us asks him a question to see if we can get his e-mail address, and if we get a hit, we can all e-mail him and tell him he's an asshole. :lol:  It'd be a laugh.


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