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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:42 am 
 

Someone actually sent me a link to this discusion after seeing the negs cougar has given me. look at his recent f/b given and you will see poor old me.

I am getting really fed up with that wanker. I bought 13 items from him in Jan. The worst mistake i have ever made on Ebay. After the auctions ended, he sent me five buy it now second chance offers which I took, bit then found he jacked me on postage, as he said he had already boxed the first 10 items, so the other three (2 books and some dice) cost me another fiver to post.
Anyway, got the first package, and found my first probs with him. The copy of Unearthed Arcana that I paid £9 for had the spine taped back on, and was in terrible condition. The listing said it was VGC, which is why I went higher on my bid. I also got a MM from him which had red pen on EVERY page in it. His responce to me was first "yeah, but you got these items cheap, whats the problem" Then he said if i wanted to wait around and check his future auctions, he would swop a repacemnt.
Then, I realised the second parcel hadnt arrived yet. All this time i am getting his infamous "send me feedback first" emails. I chased him up, and he said that maybe it got lost. I said are you sure you sent, and he said give it 20 DAYS to arrive.  Well, as you can see on his feedback, I waited a month for this parcel which never turned up, he then offered to sell me replacments, when available, and I still had no UA replacement, even though during this time, he sold another one dispite me emailing him and askeing him to end the auction and swop it with me. I emailed him over and over to try and get him to sort it out which was starting to really piss me offf. After all, when you have sent your money via paypal, a month is too long to wait for a seller to sort his act out.
I then read through all his negs and began to realize what this guy was really like. Waits 90 days to give negs so he can't have it back etc. Anyway, read what I gave him,  but can you believe this tosser is giving me ONE neg every 10 days????? I cannot believe this sort of pathetic vindictive behaviour is tolerated on ebay. It is so obvious when you see my feedback what he is up to, but dispite emailing ebay, they are not interested. How can soeone rip you off, be an absolute cock about it, and then wreck my FB???  I am glad there are other out there that realize what a wanker this guy is, and some of these posts have made me feel a lot better about my episode with cougarwank.

At the end of the day, all you can do is avoid seller like him like the plauge. Wonder what he is like in real life??? Anyone that buys used stamps, food coupons, and tries to sell USED VCR tapes on ebay smells like a real GEEK.  Always pissed me off about D&D that some guys who had lots books and played loads where absolute social retards. You need people to make the numbers up for a good game, but you wouldn't want to be seen out in public with them!!!!

Anyway, thanks for letting me rant, on the internet, its about all you can do. How much would I love to fill that wanker in though!!!!!!

  

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:40 pm 
 

deebo wrote:Someone actually sent me a link to this discusion after seeing the negs cougar has given me. look at his recent f/b given and you will see poor old me.

I then read through all his negs and began to realize what this guy was really like.


You should have done this first, I do this for any buyer with more than a couple of negs.

At the end of the day, all you can do is avoid seller like him like the plauge. Wonder what he is like in real life??? Anyone that buys used stamps, food coupons, and tries to sell USED VCR tapes on ebay smells like a real GEEK. Always pissed me off about D&D that some guys who had lots books and played loads where absolute social retards. You need people to make the numbers up for a good game, but you wouldn't want to be seen out in public with them!!!!

Anyway, thanks for letting me rant, on the internet, its about all you can do. How much would I love to fill that wanker in though!!!!!!


Simple. Your ebay account is trashed anyway. Bid on all his items, don't pay, and leave him a neg every day (complete with funny insults).  Then start your account over.  You'll have to start over but you'll have the satisfaction of kicking him in the crotch.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:07 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Simple. Your ebay account is trashed anyway. Bid on all his items, don't pay, and leave him a neg every day (complete with funny insults). Then start your account over. You'll have to start over but you'll have the satisfaction of kicking him in the crotch.


You're cold Mike, real cold...

I'll buy you a drink if we ever meet.  :lol:  :D


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:35 pm 
 

ya bet couger already has him blocked.

but for sweet revenge I'd do this......

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Email all the people who he is trying to bid on lots from, mainly the ones that say USA only that he talks into letting him bid.

Tell don't ship this guy anything Va M-bag or non-trackable means because he is a thief and has been know to do chargebacks.  Well you can soften this so its not a personal attack by saying M-bags are non trackable and you risk a chargeback, look deep into this guys feedback left for others.  

Also email some of his buyers and tellem what kinda of person he is, do anything that will effect his bottom line.  Push his bids up, email his buyers/sellers, contact the other people he has neged and start a campain of whoop ass on his thieving ass.  

Or just buy a plane ticket to the UK go to his house and break his legs :D
or better his fingers so he can't type :D maybe kickem in the balls a few times so he can't breed :D  Too bad he don't live in the good ol usa then you could just sue him to death :D

  

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:54 pm 
 

Hey, wait a minute, Filth, that is exactly what I would do. Do I get a drink too?


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:33 pm 
 

Hi,

I would guess he is English, looking at the insults used :)

Interesting enuff, European Gencon will be in the county where Cougie lives this year.

Wonder if he'll turn up?

I remember some years ago him telling me (via email) that he wouldnt go in a car or use public transport, and would only attend events that he could actually walk to.

Anyone got his address?  :twisted:

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:44 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Hey, wait a minute, Filth, that is exactly what I would do. Do I get a drink too?


If we could get everyone on acaeum in one room, then yeah...the drinks are on me.  But those planes tickets are costly. :)


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:46 pm 
 

lawrenson wrote:Check out my webpage at House Atreides CCG singles for sale for d&d stuff and wont
charge you a fortune in postage.
On run-of-the-mill items I'll do very good deals for acaeum members.


Nice shop, I wish mny "green" was stronger against your pounds.  :(


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:02 pm 
 

ya lol kinda makes UK stuff unaffordable for us poor old people in the usa

  


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:34 pm 
 

draco76 wrote:ya lol kinda makes UK stuff unaffordable for us poor old people in the usa


Why don't you guys start listing in like Mexican pesos or something. :)


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:44 pm 
 

Ya know...I hate to be the one saying this, being that I am not the most loved individual on this forum...but it must be done:

I believe that Cougar has cracked.  All that time in front of the comp, packing boxes, and travelling (er perhaps walking) to the post is unhealthy.  

Perhaps if we form a nice Acaeum alliance, we could assist him.  If everyone here bids on one of his auctions without intent of paying, for the sole purpose of leaving a neg and eats the return neg, we could put a hurtin on him.....especially with some of the higher numbered feedbacks that would be involved.  This would give some weight to the ploy....


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:47 pm 
 

morgansurname wrote:Ya know...I hate to be the one saying this, being that I am not the most loved individual on this forum...but it must be done:

I believe that Cougar has cracked. All that time in front of the comp, packing boxes, and travelling (er perhaps walking) to the post is unhealthy.

Perhaps if we form a nice Acaeum alliance, we could assist him. If everyone here bids on one of his auctions without intent of paying, for the sole purpose of leaving a neg and eats the return neg, we could put a hurtin on him.....especially with some of the higher numbered feedbacks that would be involved. This would give some weight to the ploy....



YOUR SICK SICK I SAY!
damn I waish I'd have thought of it 1st :D

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:51 pm 
 

draco76 wrote:
morgansurname wrote:Ya know...I hate to be the one saying this, being that I am not the most loved individual on this forum...but it must be done:

I believe that Cougar has cracked. All that time in front of the comp, packing boxes, and travelling (er perhaps walking) to the post is unhealthy.

Perhaps if we form a nice Acaeum alliance, we could assist him. If everyone here bids on one of his auctions without intent of paying, for the sole purpose of leaving a neg and eats the return neg, we could put a hurtin on him.....especially with some of the higher numbered feedbacks that would be involved. This would give some weight to the ploy....



YOUR SICK SICK I SAY!
damn I waish I'd have thought of it 1st :D

lol
:wink:  :twisted:


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:54 pm 
 

draco76 wrote:
morgansurname wrote:Ya know...I hate to be the one saying this, being that I am not the most loved individual on this forum...but it must be done:

I believe that Cougar has cracked. All that time in front of the comp, packing boxes, and travelling (er perhaps walking) to the post is unhealthy.

Perhaps if we form a nice Acaeum alliance, we could assist him. If everyone here bids on one of his auctions without intent of paying, for the sole purpose of leaving a neg and eats the return neg, we could put a hurtin on him.....especially with some of the higher numbered feedbacks that would be involved. This would give some weight to the ploy....



YOUR SICK SICK I SAY!
damn I waish I'd have thought of it 1st :D

lol
The best would be to hit him where it hurts...in the H series, or higher priced auctions...then he would also pay the Ebay fees! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:08 am 
 

ah he would recover his fee's best way to screw with him is to attack his bids.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:44 am 
 

Our furry friend in his description tells he won't mess around with people with less than 10 feedback, and sure we wouldn't like to ruin our pristine reputation of 100 % honest collectors.

Building a "10" rep is very easy in fact, and doesn'y cost a fortune - seen it done in a clever scam concerning used cars. This guy made an account, and bid and won on very cheap items like used stamps :lol: and discount coupons.

He paid quickly and had a 100% spotless feedback, then reaped his benefits in terms of 50.000$ apiece...

Oh, and I didn't suggest ANYTHING of course.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:02 am 
 

MrFilthyIke wrote:
Badmike wrote:Simple. Your ebay account is trashed anyway. Bid on all his items, don't pay, and leave him a neg every day (complete with funny insults). Then start your account over. You'll have to start over but you'll have the satisfaction of kicking him in the crotch.


You're cold Mike, real cold...

I'll buy you a drink if we ever meet. :lol: :D


I'll hold you to that...I'll be in Florida sometime next year  :D

I just really, really hate people that fuck around with my livelihood.  When someone gives a buyer a bad taste as a result of bad dealings, it impacts my pocketbook.  My chosen profession is reselling games and books, particularly RPGS.  Anyone who mucks up the business is taking food out of my mouth, not to mention demeaning the hobby (think the low esteem most card and memorabilia dealers are held in) and I don't like it.
   Any oldtimers here may or may not remember the "GameGuy" fiasco of the mid 90's on the old RPG marketplace.  I'll make a long story short (hard for me to do, I know). A dealer popped up on the marketplace (where everyone bought sold or traded RPG stuff before Ebay) and offered tons of great stuff at low prices. Of course, he rarely if ever shipped anything and his excuses were legendary.  Even many dealers were ripped off by him. He eventually stopped answering his phone and stopped shipping items.  Dozens of people were ripped off, although a few got their money back through the New Jersey attorney general (who filed suit after many complaints were made of mail fraud). The upshot is that I personally knew lots of people (some of them friends) that would no longer buy RPG stuff over the internet for years afterwards.  Their trust was broken, and such actions impacted my own buying selling and trading online.
 Every ass that rips people off on Ebay just makes it that harder for anyone to do business in that venue.  Everyone who gets ripped off or has a bad experience being overcharged on shipping or getting shoddy goods tells someone else, and eventually the marketplace gets harder to work in.
   It has an effect on buyers also.  Most people that buy online sometimes sell, and what if that guy has a Jade Hare or Orange B3 stashed somewhere, you'll never see it online because he doesn't trust the marketplace due to bad experiences.  The advice "Don't crap where you live" is unfortunately ignored by a lot of the rip off artists and sleezy sellers out there, to all our detriments.

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:15 am 
 

morgansurname wrote:Ya know...I hate to be the one saying this, being that I am not the most loved individual on this forum...but it must be done:

I believe that Cougar has cracked. All that time in front of the comp, packing boxes, and travelling (er perhaps walking) to the post is unhealthy.

Perhaps if we form a nice Acaeum alliance, we could assist him. If everyone here bids on one of his auctions without intent of paying, for the sole purpose of leaving a neg and eats the return neg, we could put a hurtin on him.....especially with some of the higher numbered feedbacks that would be involved. This would give some weight to the ploy....


I honestly don't know if it's worth messing with him anymore.  You can only piss on people (your customers) so long before it begins to tumble down.  I don't know if his house of cards needs a good shove or whether it will fall down on it's own, but I would merely advise anyone I know to stay away from his auctions and provide a few examples of his unsavory business practices.  Word of mouth has a nasty habit of getting around quite well in a hobby community. You don't have to libel if you aren't stating falsehoods, and in many of these shady dealers cases you don't even have to embellish the facts to get the point across.
  That being said, I find bidding against the Coug in multiple auctions (I do 10 or so at a time) brings simple peace of mind and pleasure.  Just raising the bids a couple of bucks or so per auction has already, I believe, cost the Cougie a staggering amount in the year or so I've been involved in this therapeutic activity.... :D

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