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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:55 pm 
 

draco76 wrote:Well I pretty much count paypal fee's as part of shipping costs which is at least $.50 per transaction, on $20 its more like $1 so say I sell an item for $15 charge $5 for priority mail which costs $3.85 its gonna cost me $4.85ish with shipping and paypal fee's. I've thought about listing my auctions with less s/h and a $1 paypal fee' but ebay won't let ya.


Which is really disengenuous on Ebay's part, because in reality you can charge whatever you like for "shipping" with handling included, but your buyer doesn't know why the cost is so high. Many buyers I deal with are surprised to learn I pay a paypal fee for every transaction, if you just buy or if you sell less than $1000 a month you don't have to pay the fees, so they don't understand that a seller is charged up to several bucks a transaction on some occassions.  It would be nice if you could list all the fees out to the side (materials, ebay, paypal, etc), but then that would spoil the illusion that these companies are altruistic endeavors I guess.  I myself would love to offer an incentive for buyers to send checks or money orders instead of Paypal, especially since Paypal's fees are going up (way, way up) later this year, but I can't see any mechanism that would allow me to do so without running afoul of Ebay's policies.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:57 pm 
 

Seriously (about the paypal fees) How much are they going to increase?

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:04 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:I charge exact shipping whenever possible. Matter of fact, I won't even bid on items that overcharge shipping. $385 is the cost of a flat-rate envelope, and that is what I will pay. The "handling" shit is for businesses, and people who want to rape buyers for every extra penny. None of this "15 cents for gas, 10 cents for packing materials, blah blah blah". That, and eBay fees, are the cost of doing business via eBay, and I see no reason why a buyer should have to pay that. I have noticed that sellers who overcharge shipping tend to make less overall on their auctions.


That fact has helped me, most people who deal with me continue to buy from me because of my willingness to combine shipping to their advantage, plus they do seem to bid more.  I always calculate shipping into what my final bid will be when bidding on an auction, although I've been known to bung it up occassionaly and pay more per item shipping than I thought I was, lesson learned.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:13 pm 
 

paypal fee's are a bitch I think they have gone up.... Wish ebay had never bought out paypal they should be sued......  People were not using there bidpay bs so they boughtout paypal.

226.25 USD  FEE -$9.12 USD  $217.13 USD  thats a recent payment I recieved crazy freaken fee's

  


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Post Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:49 pm 
 

draco76 wrote:
226.25 USD FEE -$9.12 USD $217.13 USD thats a recent payment I recieved crazy freaken fee's


Well it was an international payment right? Paypal charges an extra 1% for those. Plus they charge the Buyer too.

Gotta love the way good old Ebay Double (or Triple) dips.

Unfortunately NOT accepting paypal isn't an option for any serious seller.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:00 pm 
 

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draco76 wrote:
226.25 USD FEE -$9.12 USD $217.13 USD thats a recent payment I recieved crazy freaken fee's


Well it was an international payment right? Paypal charges an extra 1% for those. Plus they charge the Buyer too.

Gotta love the way good old Ebay Double (or Triple) dips.

Unfortunately NOT accepting paypal isn't an option for any serious seller.


i STILL dont see what the problem was in passing the paypal charges onto the seller. if everyone does it, whats the problem? if you pay by bidpay, this is what happens anyway and ebay allows that, so why cant it on paypal? double standards sh*t if you ask me. if ppl dont want to pay via paypal, they can pay another way, and if its local, i would rather them do that anyway - less charges, more money for me.....another sh*t system forced upon you by ebay huh?



  


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Post Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:33 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i STILL dont see what the problem was in passing the paypal charges onto the seller. if everyone does it, whats the problem?

It's not legal to do so in CA and that's where they're based, IIRC.

OTOH is perfectly legal to add on any card fees to a transaction in the UK, if those are mentioned in advance. I don't think they plan to move over here, however, just to keep those sellers happy.

In reality, of course, the CA legislation just makes transactions less transparent and encourages price gouging on postage :(
(and higher postage charge = less eBay fees, too, no?)

  

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:22 pm 
 

I do not mind if Paypal fees are charged, I will just use the old trusty Money order instead.  If the sellaer does not charge paypal fees to his customers he is leaving money on the table.

The excuse that its the cost of doing business doesn't wash really, Ebay charges fees and I can expect that to be the cost of business but the double dip paypal fees are ridiculous.

Money orders are cheap!  Just deal with reputable dealers.

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:50 pm 
 

not only that but chargebacks are fing gay.... I'm still mad over the $350 I lost because the buyer called and said it was an unathorized payment, claimed his 13 year old step son used his paypal account or some bullshit so I got screwed out of an item and paypal wouldn't reimburse me.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:51 am 
 

draco76 wrote:not only that but chargebacks are fing gay.... I'm still mad over the $350 I lost because the buyer called and said it was an unathorized payment, claimed his 13 year old step son used his paypal account or some bullshit so I got screwed out of an item and paypal wouldn't reimburse me.

That's quite a neat trick. Presumably you can't sue a 13 year old kid either. Maybe you should go pay the guy a visit.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:54 am 
 

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draco76 wrote:not only that but chargebacks are fing gay.... I'm still mad over the $350 I lost because the buyer called and said it was an unathorized payment, claimed his 13 year old step son used his paypal account or some bullshit so I got screwed out of an item and paypal wouldn't reimburse me.

That's quite a neat trick. Presumably you can't sue a 13 year old kid either. Maybe you should go pay the guy a visit.


and he didnt return the item??!! now sorry i WOULD go to the trouble of paying a visit "unauthorised" and make sure there was $350 of things he would need to repair....

some ppl really pi*s the feckin hell out of me  :?



  

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:41 am 
 

draco76 wrote:not only that but chargebacks are fing gay.... I'm still mad over the $350 I lost because the buyer called and said it was an unathorized payment, claimed his 13 year old step son used his paypal account or some bullshit so I got screwed out of an item and paypal wouldn't reimburse me.


I never accept payments of $100 or more from an unauthorized account.  Just too much fraud out there, and no way to get your money or items back if you are taken.  Also, as long as you attach a delivery confirmation form to any authorized payment shipment, Paypal will pretty much always rule in your favor (the good got to the destination, that's all they care about).  It's worth the $.50 or whatever it costs, I have won 100% of the chargebacks I've had so far.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:11 am 
 

ya well i still got to little bastards address, he lives in cali close to where I used to live.  I plan on going back to cali for a week this summer and I just might pay his little 13 year old ass a visit lol.  I also might just wait till he hits 18 then role out there and beat the living shit out of him.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:38 am 
 

draco76 wrote:ya well i still got to little bastards address, he lives in cali close to where I used to live. I plan on going back to cali for a week this summer and I just might pay his little 13 year old ass a visit lol. I also might just wait till he hits 18 then role out there and beat the living shit out of him.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:26 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
draco76 wrote:ya well i still got to little bastards address, he lives in cali close to where I used to live. I plan on going back to cali for a week this summer and I just might pay his little 13 year old ass a visit lol. I also might just wait till he hits 18 then role out there and beat the living shit out of him.


i like your style :twisted:


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:32 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:45 pm 
 

MrFilthyIke wrote:Could start yelling "You remember me? YOU REMEMBER ME?! What's my name, b#$ch!?" :lol:


and then he says "its my twin brother you wanted"  :P



  


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:47 pm 
 

Ah, double the fun, double the pleasure.

Of whooping ass. :)


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