napoleonsdad wrote:I'm asking for opinions here. I recently purchased a lot of 9 hardcover, mostly 2nd edition, books. The listing described the books in VERY good shape. The books arrived and were in decent shape but 5 of the books had laminated covers. The listing made no mention of this, other than to ask questions about specific items. Asking a seller if books have a laminated cover is, in my mind, not a typical question. I emailed seller about why this wasn't mentioned and am awaiting reply. Is it just me or would anyone else feel a bit deceived?Here's the link to the listing:cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 0074839878
celmive wrote:Basic answer is yes... I would say the seller was looking at them as a player though rather than a collector
I would agree. As a player, he probably thought laminating the books was a great idea and in fact added to their condition.
I don't think I would feel deceived about this one. I would probably feel disappointed with the ones that are laminated but not deceived. The seller doesn't give much of a description of the books at all. If you wanted a better description about marks, highlighting, etc that should have been asked and the laminating might have been brought up.
Mars wrote:I don't think I would feel deceived about this one. I would probably feel disappointed with the ones that are laminated but not deceived. The seller doesn't give much of a description of the books at all. If you wanted a better description about marks, highlighting, etc that should have been asked and the laminating might have been brought up.
bclarkie wrote:but IMO if you are substantially altering the original book in the form of putting contact paper on the coverds, you should be listing it in the auction, its your responsibility as a seller.
bclarkie wrote:Well here is an auction that just goes to show you that not every shill is done by a newbie bidder This auction ended earlier today: ** expired/removed eBay auction **Now amazingly enough its back up again: ** expired/removed eBay auction **Same auction as before. Now take a look at where the high bidder from the previous auction was from: ** expired/removed eBay auction **Hmmm... how about that, the exact same city. Also, note that both the buyer and seller seemingly have a P as the first letter of their last name. Do you think that is a husband and wife shill team there? I think so. Time to report, report, report....
Martian Reprobate wrote:It's a cert. I asked a question about this item and the response came from a guy called Richard Perkins ... a day or so before rjperkins2 'won' the auction. I've asked the seller for an explanation ... wonder if I'll get one?~/00\~
bclarkie wrote:If you look at both of their previous feedbacks, this is not the first time its been done either.
deimos3428 wrote:I think this is more common on eBay than a lot of people might believe. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but my guess is that it is for a slightly different reason than a standard "shilling" operation. (You know, the ones where a rapid newbie account bids things up incrementally to milk bidders out of as much cash as possible).I think it's being used as a way of circumventing the "reserve bid" and "minimum bid" fees. They probably think they're clever, and probably don't even realize it's illegal/immoral. I quite distinctly recall my wife asking me if she should bid on my stuff to make sure I got a fair price, when I first started selling. She honestly thought she was helping out. (I told her that didn't seem fair. Apparently it's also against eBay rules, but a lot of newbies don't read all the rules.)
Martian Reprobate wrote:Not to mention a history of 'exaggerating' the quality of their wares.Worthy additions to this rogues gallery methinks ...By the way, in the interests of full disclosure, I am otherwise known as BookWyvern, so their greed did save me from a potentially expensive mistake ... I always did have a keen appreciation for the ironies of life.~/00\~
bclarkie wrote:Damn, do I really hate it when these shady a** holes go down. *waves bye bye to the shillers*[ Image ]