Shady dealers of the past
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies. Page 75 of 100123 ... 72, 73, 74, 75, 76 ... 9899100
Author


Prolific Collector

Posts: 414
Joined: Mar 26, 2006
Last Visit: Nov 30, 2007
Location: Chicago

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:34 am 
 

Badmike wrote:

I think Mark's attitude is correct. Did this guy intentionally mislead you, or was it an honest mistake?  I myself have missed thing before like highlighting, writing, underlining.  Was it excessive, or only a couple of marks here and there? There is a question of value.  Did you pay $100 for the books? Or five bucks?  IMO this would play a big part in how pissed i'd be about the transaction.  
 I just got nailed on a neg, for (no lie) "cockroach in module".  Now, I have never intentionally placed a bug or rodent within a product....nor would I allow it to remain if I found it  8O   However, the buyer left a neg without any attempt at negotiation, so I negged him back and that was the end of it AFAIK.  If he had chosen to contact me, obviously a refund or replacement would be in order.
  It doesn't sound like in your communications you are being clear enough to the seller what you require to satisfy yourself, whether it be a refund, partial refund, return, or whatever.  I would let him know what you require, then proceed from there. Unfortunately mutual negs will probably be the result, so ask yourself if that's what you want.

Mike B.


Thanks for the input Mike and you are correct in stating that I was not clear in my communications in what I wanted them to do.

I wanted to 'feel them out' and see what action they would of taken.

I have decided on just living with the results and not buying from them again. I can use/sell the books if I want to.

Thanks again for the input and here is a link to the auction:


** expired eBay auction **

  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8219
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Jun 12, 2017
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:13 am 
 

still a pretty crap effort on the part of the seller, considering the fact that they DID look and couldnt find any  :?

Al



  


Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6463
Joined: Dec 13, 2004
Last Visit: Dec 25, 2019

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:57 am 
 

Lets face it, the seller flat out lied about the description and was hoping to not get busted for it.  The sellers attitude and being so dodgy after you contacted him clearly illustrates that point.  I mean seriously, why in the hell does he think you are contacting him?  Does he honestly he think that you are just bored and looking for a friend to talk to? F**K NO, he knows ou want compensated for the fact that he lied to you and you busted him for it and is hoping if he keeps avoiding the issue that you will just go away.  Like I said, I would demand either a full refund in return for the books or a partial refund and keep the books, I would leave that up to him.  If he tells you to screw off, Neg his ass and charge it back, Period.


"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Neitzche

  


Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 6463
Joined: Dec 13, 2004
Last Visit: Dec 25, 2019

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:13 am 
 

Here is one for you all:


** expired eBay auction **


This guys has several other items up as well.  His feedback is 93.6 after 1447 ratings!! That is without a doubt one of the single most poor feedback that I have ever seen of a seller still on Ebay over 100 feedabcks.  What a nightmare. 8O


"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Neitzche

  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5613
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: New Hampsha

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:02 pm 
 

His eBay name is freindofhell. In all honesty, I wouldn't buy anything from someone with such an idiotic name. Though I did go by eyeamgawd...........


If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

 WWW  


Prolific Collector

Posts: 414
Joined: Mar 26, 2006
Last Visit: Nov 30, 2007
Location: Chicago

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:46 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Lets face it, the seller flat out lied about the description and was hoping to not get busted for it.  The sellers attitude and being so dodgy after you contacted him clearly illustrates that point.  I mean seriously, why in the hell does he think you are contacting him?  Does he honestly he think that you are just bored and looking for a friend to talk to? F**K NO, he knows ou want compensated for the fact that he lied to you and you busted him for it and is hoping if he keeps avoiding the issue that you will just go away.  Like I said, I would demand either a full refund in return for the books or a partial refund and keep the books, I would leave that up to him.  If he tells you to screw off, Neg his ass and charge it back, Period.


Hi bclarkie,

Well, I took your advice and emailed the muppit aboout wanting a full refund and returning the books and his response was:

#1:

No. The books have been in your possession 1 month. If I could buy and car and return it for a full refund each month I return it; I would never need to Own a car. No thanks.

#2:

No. No thanks.

My response:

You would return the car if the seller misled you about its condition.....

His response:

Last word. I have apologized for missing an inconseqential ink blob which you may have put into the book yourself. You have had the books long enough to use them numerous times. I am not refunding your $$ if you return the books. Say goodnight.

I am so p*ssed off I can hardly type.

So at this ponit, how do I go about charging back the sale without getting blasted by eBay and what would be a good feedback message?

This is going to get interesting... :twisted:

Thanks.

  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5613
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: New Hampsha

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:01 pm 
 

If he did not have tracking, I think you can easily charge it back. It's dishonest, and in most cases I'd never advocate it, but the seller is a maggot that needs to be squished. You have nothing to lose if you do. At best, they deny the chargeback and he has to go thru the hassle.
As far as feedback, write the truth. He will undoubtedly reply to the feedback, so plan enough for multiple lines.


If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

 WWW  


Prolific Collector

Posts: 636
Joined: Sep 14, 2005
Last Visit: Jan 16, 2009
Location: Montreal, Canada

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:24 pm 
 

Since you've sent him emails that say you have recieved the book, I wouldn't suggest claiming you never recieved the item.  If you get caught in the lie, which is rather likely, the chargeback will almost certainly be rejected.

You could, however, claim that the item is substantially different from what was presented.  I'd suggest documenting in as much details as possible the damage to the book.  Consider scanning/photographing the defaced pages.  You're going to need to convince your bank that the seller lied to you about the condition of the book and then refused to rectify the situation.

 WWW  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 7942
Joined: Jun 23, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 24, 2021
Location: DFW TX

Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:44 pm 
 

NetRodent wrote:Since you've sent him emails that say you have recieved the book, I wouldn't suggest claiming you never recieved the item.  If you get caught in the lie, which is rather likely, the chargeback will almost certainly be rejected.

You could, however, claim that the item is substantially different from what was presented.  I'd suggest documenting in as much details as possible the damage to the book.  Consider scanning/photographing the defaced pages.  You're going to need to convince your bank that the seller lied to you about the condition of the book and then refused to rectify the situation.


Yeh, you've given the creep a chance to come clean. Nail him to the wall. You can charge back on items that have been inadequately described such as the items you got.  In pretty much all cases your cc company will side with you, you are their customer.  That guy sounds like a real tool....

Mike B.


"THE MORE YOU THINK ABOUT WHY i DONE WHAT i DONE THE MORE i LAUGH" Cougar
"The Acaeum hates fun" Sir Allen
"I had a collecting emergency" Nogrod
Co-founder of the North Texas RPG Con
http://www.ntrpgcon.com

 WWW  


Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3793
Joined: Feb 23, 2005
Last Visit: Jan 17, 2021

Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:10 pm 
 

Does the wording here sound like it might be slightly misleading to those who would misinterpret "poly" to mean "poly bag" rather than Polyhedron?


** expired eBay auction **


Now that I think about it, the whole auction is misleading.  Why not list it as Polyhedron #28 with a cover scan, rather than as the GBH?


Let mirth prevail!

  

User avatar

Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3590
Joined: Dec 20, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: Canada

Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:41 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Does the wording here sound like it might be slightly misleading to those who would misinterpret "poly" to mean "poly bag" rather than Polyhedron?


** expired eBay auction **


Now that I think about it, the whole auction is misleading.  Why not list it as Polyhedron #28 with a cover scan, rather than as the GBH?


Very misleading brought to us by the number one shady dealer of all time :!:


Games can get you through times of no money but money can not get you through times of no games!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8219
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Jun 12, 2017
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:23 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:
Very misleading brought to us by the number one shady dealer of all time :!:


i asked last time - they are inserts from polyhedron



  

User avatar

Verbose Collector

Posts: 1879
Joined: Mar 26, 2004
Last Visit: Jan 25, 2021
Location: UK

Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:47 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:
Very misleading brought to us by the number one shady dealer of all time :!:


That is a quality auction bearing in mind it has a £50 reserve(at least)!!
(Think there was a thread here recently saying these polyhedrons should fetch $20 or some such)

  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5613
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: New Hampsha

Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:50 pm 
 

Poly's 16-19.


If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

 WWW  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5613
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: New Hampsha

Post Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:49 am 
 

this is weird:


** expired eBay auction **


A $200 BIN on a black folder PoVQ. If you look at his other shit, it is WAY overpriced, and he lists the Acaeum in his PoVQ description. Methinks I'd be checking the contents pretty thoroughly, if it ever arrived.


If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

 WWW  


Sage Collector
JG Valuation Board
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 2039
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Last Visit: Jul 14, 2019
Location: Tashkent, Uzbekistan

Post Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:56 pm 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:this is weird:


** expired eBay auction **


A $200 BIN on a black folder PoVQ. If you look at his other shit, it is WAY overpriced, and he lists the Acaeum in his PoVQ description. Methinks I'd be checking the contents pretty thoroughly, if it ever arrived.


It sold pretty quickly. Did anyone here buy it? Not much of a photo - probably incomplete.

  

User avatar

Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3590
Joined: Dec 20, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: Canada

Post Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:18 pm 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:this is weird:


** expired eBay auction **


A $200 BIN on a black folder PoVQ. If you look at his other shit, it is WAY overpriced, and he lists the Acaeum in his PoVQ description. Methinks I'd be checking the contents pretty thoroughly, if it ever arrived.


Looks like Aia's account :?:


Games can get you through times of no money but money can not get you through times of no games!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Verbose Collector
JG Valuation Board

Posts: 1665
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
Last Visit: Jan 23, 2021
Location: Moncton, NB Canada

Post Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:52 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:
Looks like Aia's account :?:


Yup...that's his handle. He's won a few of my auctions in the past.
Fast payment, good transactions.

JasonW


Check out my Chaosium sourcebook.
Secrets of Tibet

  


Prolific Collector

Posts: 125
Joined: Oct 27, 2003
Last Visit: Aug 23, 2017
Location: Atop a heap of slain orcs

Post Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:10 pm 
 

Mehh...I thought I'd ask for help since this thread is all about shady assoholic duck fornicating buttbags on ebay....

Long story short-

1. I win auction. Dealer says items usually shipped 48 to 72 hours after end of sale.

2. I paypal dealer ASAP, 45 minutes after I win.

3. Two weeks go by- I email dealer "yo dog, what up" (actual email colloquialised for acaeum members need for effective time management. There is a Lost Tamoachan out there, labeled assorted office memorabilia?, BIN $4.....)

4. He responds, "Sorry, I have been backed up , I will send it today."
5. Three weeks go by.

6. I email him, " ?". (Actual email truncated for acaeum members need for effective time management. There is  woodgrain out there, somewhere with a 15 GBP BIN....)

7. No response.

8. I email him two more times, with the last one saying I want my money refunded if he has not shipped the item, as it has now been 5-6 weeks without delivery. Bear in mind that I have recieved multiple items from other overseas dealers purchased several weeks after my purchase with the questionable dealer.


9. No response. I think I have been fukked and chukked.

Insights? You guys are the informal tribunal and deciding body that ebay desperately lacks.....what should I do?

Thanks, Rob


Bree-Yark!

  


Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3066
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Last Visit: Apr 30, 2015

Post Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:23 pm 
 

The lack of communication makes it unlikely you'll ever see your item/money again, so take action now.  You've waited long enough.  If you were getting a response from the seller, that'd be a different story...sometimes international stuff gets shipped surface mail, things get lost in the mail, etc.

Do a chargeback, file a "non-performing seller" report with eBay, leave nasty feedback, post his name here, and anything else people might mention, before it's too late -- these things have time limits on them.  I once gave someone the benefit of the doubt for far too long, and ended up being out over $100.  :cry:

 YIM  
PreviousNext
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies. Page 75 of 100123 ... 72, 73, 74, 75, 76 ... 9899100