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Post Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:49 am 
 

He may have strict terms, but he does ship very quickly and with high quality.


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:03 pm 
 

Here's one for you:

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I inquired about what I thought was a screw up in his shipping calcualtor and this is the quality response that I got:

Moron Seller wrote:There is a $5 handling fee added, wich is figured into the shipping cost calculator. I have drive 4 miles to the post office and gas is not cheap and my time is not free.


Nothing like acting like an ass towards your potential bidders.  I am glad his time isn't free cause neither is mine and so I'll be skipping those auctions. :wink:

On a similiar note, has anyone else out there realized that there are more and more ass hole sellers out there who are trying to screw everyone with their handling fees?  I mean it was bad before, but recently it seems to be getting even worse.


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:23 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:On a similiar note, has anyone else out there realized that there are more and more ass hole sellers out there who are trying to screw everyone with their handling fees?  I mean it was bad before, but recently it seems to be getting even worse.

Yes.  The entire "eBay D&D experience" has been getting steadily worse, in my opinion.  I'm starting to explore other avenues.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:25 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Here's one for you:

eBay listings

I inquired about what I thought was a screw up in his shipping calcualtor and this is the quality response that I got:



Nothing like acting like an ass towards your potential bidders.  I am glad his time isn't free cause neither is mine and so I'll be skipping those auctions. :wink:

On a similiar note, has anyone else out there realized that there are more and more ass hole sellers out there who are trying to screw everyone with their handling fees?  I mean it was bad before, but recently it seems to be getting even worse.


They are all newbies who read the same "How to make money on Ebay" books and websites, where it states that "Hey!  Ebay can't charge you for shipping/handling so screw the buyer there and keep the money!".  They act like they just figured out this loophole, but of course they don't take into account there are plenty of ebay sellers out there who DONT charge $5 handling and are their competition, so in the long run this "innovative" strategy isn't going to make them any money at all.  Morons.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:34 pm 
 

I mean I can understand a small handling fee to cover you costs and I have no problem with it. This guy's attitude is like he is doing everyone a favor by listing these auctions. $5, I think I'll pass.


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:59 pm 
 

I think you guys are just getting stingy.

$5 isn't what it used to be. ::sigh::

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:06 am 
 

I have always hated the "handling fee" on auctions. That is the sort of cost that should be built into the price of the item. What if when you went to Kroger to buy a gallon of milk it was priced at $1.79 but then at the register in addition to the tax the store but a $1.56 destination charge on it.  If you need to price an item at $8 to make your self determined profit margain then mark it with an $8 reserve not a $3 minimum or BIN and then add $5 in addition to shipping.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:27 am 
 

Marlith wrote:I have always hated the "handling fee" on auctions. That is the sort of cost that should be built into the price of the item. What if when you went to Kroger to buy a gallon of milk it was priced at $1.79 but then at the register in addition to the tax the store but a $1.56 destination charge on it.  If you need to price an item at $8 to make your self determined profit margain then mark it with an $8 reserve not a $3 minimum or BIN and then add $5 in addition to shipping.

Exactly.  I don't like paying for handling, because I don't really want the item handled -- I want it packaged and shipped.  

Charge packaging and shipping at cost, and if you must, hide additional fees in the minimum bid -- that's just intelligent marketing.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:42 am 
 

deimos3428 wrote:Charge packaging and shipping at cost, and if you must, hide additional fees in the minimum bid -- that's just intelligent marketing.


That's for marketing to intelligent people.  For marketing to fools, which I fear are far more numerous, you'd probably do better following the low price/high fee formula.  Of course this just my two cents*.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:23 am 
 

Marlith wrote:I have always hated the "handling fee" on auctions. That is the sort of cost that should be built into the price of the item. What if when you went to Kroger to buy a gallon of milk it was priced at $1.79 but then at the register in addition to the tax the store but a $1.56 destination charge on it.  If you need to price an item at $8 to make your self determined profit margain then mark it with an $8 reserve not a $3 minimum or BIN and then add $5 in addition to shipping.


ah but then you see, how you americans do things, is totally different to us.

how you just explained the above is how it IS for us.

i go into a shop here and buy something. it says £2.50 on the label. i go to the till and get charged £2.50....sorted.

my first trip to USA. i was in san francisco and bought a computer game - remember it very well. i looked at the price "oh thats quite reasonable i will have that" i thought. i went to the till and then got asked for a totally different price, because you added the tax on AT the till!!! wtf was that all about??!! i remember walking away thinking "what a feckin rip!"

but hey thats perspective for you.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:36 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
They are all newbies who read the same "How to make money on Ebay" books and websites, where it states that "Hey!  Ebay can't charge you for shipping/handling so screw the buyer there and keep the money!".  They act like they just figured out this loophole, but of course they don't take into account there are plenty of ebay sellers out there who DONT charge $5 handling and are their competition, so in the long run this "innovative" strategy isn't going to make them any money at all.  Morons.

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   Chances are, he'll get the sale he wants.  He'll just get buyers who calculate his high shipping into their bids.  Hell...his genius plan will probably work.

   This guy is a perfect example of what I have called the genius.  The genius thinks he has an edge...a thinking man's edge...over the losers who play by the rules.

   I don't mind the genius and his endless plans to beat the system.  What I mind is his belief that he is so much smarter than the rest of us.  In actual practice (As opposed to imaginary practice? Redundant.) the genius is dumber than most.

  The genius is like the smart raccoon, who knows how to stick his paw into the hunter's trap without getting caught.  What the genius raccoon does not realize is that raccoons who are really smart don't stick their paws into traps at all.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:46 am 
 

When I first saw this I was thinking how I really need this to complete my MERP collection but no way in Hell am I going to bid on this because this guy has got to be one of the biggest jerks on Ebay.


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First off he has 15 negatives (quite a few neutrals as well) and all of them seem to be either from not paying for an item he bought or not sending an item that someone won from him.  While I was reading through some of his negs/neutrals I found this one and almost pissed myself from laughing so hard:

Caution, Its been 50 days no product, he said cat ate one of the miniatures.  Reply by trevorstamper: cat DID eat on mini--pinated a new one, and shipped


This guy is one of those people that just needs to get his ass kicked something fierce.  :twisted:

  


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:56 am 
 

Well, here is another submission to this thread and I strongly suggest everyone from dealing with this guy:

seattlesbest45

seattlesbest45 should be renamed seattlesworst69.  I won 3 Dungeon Magazines from this guy a couple of weeks ago that were supposedly listed in "excellent condition":


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The number 3 wasn't too bad, but number 5 and nubmer 6 were hammered.  As a matter of fact number 5 is so bad that the cover has come completely off and almost 100% split in half as well.  Compounded by the fact that he charged me $12 S&H to ship these 3 magazines for what was supposed to be for USPS Parcel Post(which was very high as it was), but he then went ahead and shipped them Media Mail for $2.67.  To make matters even worse he dumped the magazines in an unpadded manilla envelope with ZERO protection.  So, needless to say when they arrived yesterday I was a little more than annoyed.  So like I always do, I sent this moron an email stating my concerns, before I light his ass up with negative feedback.  Here is the response that I got this morning:

Shady Ass Seller wrote:
Brian,

What can I telll you, they are 19 year old magazines, I didn't say they were new or in like new condition, and when put into perspective they are in excellent condition considering that they are 19 years old.

We really want all of our customers to be happy campers so this is what we will do, return the magazines and we will refund your total bid amounts minus shipping and handling.

Shipping and handling charges are not to just cover postage, they also defer some of the other costs associated with doing business. It's always iffy what the item will sell for and I do the same amount of work for all of them. My charges are not out of line with other sellers.

Thanks again for your business,
Alan


Its probably a good this that this asshole lives in Washington state, because I would seriously consider paying him a visit. :evil:  I already emailed him back that his "plan" wasn't going to fly with me, but I know that this is going to end up very bad.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:35 am 
 

As expected, my email to his response did not go well:

A$$ Hole Seller wrote:Well Brian I do believe our business is concluded.


Guess its time for the old chargeback and negative feedback. :roll:  Its really pretty sad to, I haven't had to leave anyone a neg in over a year. :?


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:46 am 
 

I wanted to give my two bits to this discussion.

I don't run many auctions but when I do I use a cheap ass bathroom scale and a tape measure to determine shipping. I guess how much extra girth the padded envelope will add and then enter the destination as Quebec. Then I take that amount and use it for shipping to North America. That (usually) covers my butt.  I have made around $5 profit on shipping for a single auction with this method; I have also lost $23.

Why so much science?

I don't want to spend 1 min longer than I have to on the auction process.
I want to empty the shelf, move the stuff out, and move on. I am not in it to spend hours marketing and answering customer queries. My time is worth more than the return. I don't shy away from questions at all, I just give the quickest. pointed reply that I feel like giving.

The info on my auctions is also sparse, I rarely go into detail about the condition of the item. I don't want to write a book I want to sell the thing. Sometimes I even do it from memory, while the item is on the shelf in the basement.

None of this makes me a collectors buddy I know, except when they get something I haven't bothered to describe and it turns out to be in really great shape.

To add something else I have dealt with troll and toad before and found them to be friendly and the product excellent.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:58 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:Well, here is another submission to this thread and I strongly suggest everyone from dealing with this guy:

seattlesbest45

seattlesbest45 should be renamed seattlesworst69.  I won 3 Dungeon Magazines from this guy a couple of weeks ago that were supposedly listed in "excellent condition":


** expired/removed eBay auction **



** expired/removed eBay auction **



** expired/removed eBay auction **


The number 3 wasn't too bad, but number 5 and nubmer 6 were hammered.  As a matter of fact number 5 is so bad that the cover has come completely off and almost 100% split in half as well.  Compounded by the fact that he charged me $12 S&H to ship these 3 magazines for what was supposed to be for USPS Parcel Post(which was very high as it was), but he then went ahead and shipped them Media Mail for $2.67.  To make matters even worse he dumped the magazines in an unpadded manilla envelope with ZERO protection.  So, needless to say when they arrived yesterday I was a little more than annoyed.  So like I always do, I sent this moron an email stating my concerns, before I light his ass up with negative feedback.  Here is the response that I got this morning:



Its probably a good this that this asshole lives in Washington state, because I would seriously consider paying him a visit. :evil:  I already emailed him back that his "plan" wasn't going to fly with me, but I know that this is going to end up very bad.


I just laughed my ass off looking at your negs, BC...you HAMMERED him! LOL!
This kind of seller is really annoying because the items were described as "Excellent", I know this is a very subjective word, but in almost anyone's mind this means "above average" not "ready to line the birdcage". Obviously the seller when he writes this knows he is lying about the condition....he figures the buyer won't say anything or will accept his partial refund. But really BC, the excessive shipping should have tipped you off ($6 each when a flat rate priority envelope is $4.55 with delivery confirmation?) that this guy is clueless.
 Oh, and I have to say that shipping without any sort of padding has been the situation for about the last ten items I have won on Ebay, I don't know why but that's just what I've been getting.  I don't know why it would kill anyone to put at least a backing board in the envelope.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:28 pm 
 

Gee, Grodog liked him.
But then, Grodog likes everybody, even me. Go figure.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:47 pm 
 

The negs have already cost him plenty...he should have just eaten the shipping costs.  His name here is even worse.

I have noticed a trend in poor shipping.  I have contacted a couple of sellers and one even thanked me and totally improved the quality of her next shipment.

I think it goes back to the genius problem again.

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