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Poll: Mike has asked if you would buy a copy of Planes of Existance if it were to be published?

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mbassoc2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:24 am

Mike is trying to decide whether to proceed with publishing Planes of Existance. He's wondering if it would be really that financially viable. So let's see how many people would buy.

I know some of you have posted to say you would, but lets see if we can get a head count.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:51 am

...how about a bit more info what it is supposed to be?

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:20 am

frankfromgermany wrote:...how about a bit more info what it is supposed to be?

I should really let Mike answer this. It is the product of many years of work in the '70s and early '80s on the part of Steve Marsh, with input from Gary Gygax. For whatever reason it never went to print, and was surplanted in AD&D with the woefully inept Manual of the Planes.

I look upon it as a possible alternative to Manual of the Planes, but then I haven't seen any of the source materials.

Mike would be the best person to fill us in on that.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:26 am

well it sounds interesting so i would have one.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:58 am

mbassoc2003 wrote:(...) and was surplanted in AD&D with the woefully inept Manual of the Planes.

What's wrong with the Manual of Planes? IMO, it is one of Grubb's most important releases, laying the foundation for 2nd Edition's Planescape setting. I think it's a great piece of work.

I'd buy a copy of the Planes of Existance anyway, be it good or bad material. I wouldn't use it for gaming though, I'd see it more as a historical reference. It would be interesting to imagine, how it might have affected the D&D.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:15 am

I agree with Ralf - Manual of the Planes is an excellent book. I think it was the most interesting and useful hardcover AD&D book besides the original three (well, I used Unearthed Arcana a lot as well).

I've read and re-read it countless times. At the time it really brought a sense of the Inner & Outer Planes to the game as well as providing plently of campaign ideas and practical ways to approach incorporating other planes into the AD&D world. Obviously, it is "scarce" on extended detail for the planes - it took the entire Planescape line to begin to tackle the daunting prospect of Outer/Inner planes.

Sure, who wouldn't buy a hardcover - assuming cover price isn't $49.99 ?

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:34 am

Ralf Toth wrote:
mbassoc2003 wrote:(...) and was surplanted in AD&D with the woefully inept Manual of the Planes.

What's wrong with the Manual of Planes? IMO, it is one of Grubb's most important releases, laying the foundation for 2nd Edition's Planescape setting. I think it's a great piece of work.

I'd buy a copy of the Planes of Existance anyway, be it good or bad material. I wouldn't use it for gaming though, I'd see it more as a historical reference. It would be interesting to imagine, how it might have affected the D&D.

Looks around for the infidel. MoP is my bible, man. :D I already have an advanced degree in extraplanar mechanics, having designed my own game world, but I might buy a copy of this work just to support the cause. And Planescape? That never happened, just a high level illusionist hard at work.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:55 am

I'd pay a ridiculous amount even for PDF, so it'd be almost entirely profit from me at least. Thanks,

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:31 am

I'd buy one, sounds cool!!

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:00 pm

Help out the occasional Forum visitor... Mike who?

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:40 pm

Mike who? Improvstone. He bought a large amount of of the Steve Marsh documents/manuscripts/correspondance, and is considering collating and publishing, if the demand is there.

And for the record, I'd buy a copy if it goes to print.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:25 pm

I have noted this on an earlier thread, but I would definitely be interested in it no matter form that it was presented in.

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:57 am

This thing would be an instant buy if it would be a printed product.

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:01 pm

Especially with print-on-demand publishing now with us.

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:04 pm

Traveller wrote:Especially with print-on-demand publishing now with us.

(aside from any discussions with Mike or wishing to impinge upon any plans he might have)

*nods*. Would've been my thoughts, were it not possible to finance the "big bang" option with a hardback and lots of expensive artwork in the first instance, were I faced with such a project and an understanding author.

Have helped out with various books in the past and gut feel might be to release a short series of inexpensive, "limited edition" p.o.d. paperbacks to at least get (some of the) material into the public domain, in the first instance; with a "special edition"/enhanced/whatever hardback to follow, should things work out.
(120 pages 9"x6" with glossy cover costs under $4 to print in pb format).

JM-01.5 cents-anyhow.

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:16 am

i think generally you would prb find that the majority of this forum would have at least 1...i know quite a few ppl who would have one too....so theres a nice lil base to start with....

a nice limited edition to test the water? if the feedback from it is good, then expand and do it bigger etc...

as harami says, pb seems the way to go really without expending too much too quickly.

i looked into all this stuff not so long ago, cos i am writing a book. as i am just doing it for myself and not for financial gain really, am having a limited run of copies for family and friends etc, so that the cost is minimal for me.

and lets be honest, it would be a damn shame for all that material to not be shared. at least then, you could recoup some of the cost of getting hold of the stuff in the first place?

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:41 am

killjoy32 wrote:i think generally you would prb find that the majority of this forum would have at least 1...i know quite a few ppl who would have one too....so theres a nice lil base to start with....

a nice limited edition to test the water? if the feedback from it is good, then expand and do it bigger etc...

as harami says, pb seems the way to go really without expending too much too quickly.

i looked into all this stuff not so long ago, cos i am writing a book. as i am just doing it for myself and not for financial gain really, am having a limited run of copies for family and friends etc, so that the cost is minimal for me.

and lets be honest, it would be a damn shame for all that material to not be shared. at least then, you could recoup some of the cost of getting hold of the stuff in the first place?

Al

I just hope whoever is publishing this treats it with a little thought with respect to when it should have been published, and doesn't make it look like a glossy d20 book. No spandex please.

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:58 am

deimos3428 wrote:I just hope whoever is publishing this treats it with a little thought with respect to when it should have been published, and doesn't make it look like a glossy d20 book. No spandex please.

yeah i agree...i dont like them new d20 shiny things.

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