stormber wrote:Aw c'mon I see you guys looking One reply so far. Thanks EGG!
First: May 1979. Wizard logo. The first printing of the DMG that actually made it to retailers without being recalled! Cover art is of a two adventurers fighting a large efreet. Angled yellow banner with "Advanced D&D" in the corner. Flyleaf is a yellow-orange color. No ISBN on spine (though two copies has been spotted with both the ISBN and Product Code on the spine and rear cover). 232 pages. Thanks to Mike Deaton and Jean-Philippe Suter for help with this info.
mbassoc2003 wrote:The Acaeum Listing would seem to place what you've described as the 3rd print run of the 1st edition, preceded by the True First and the First Beta.
harami2000 wrote:Not sure about that full history "as given", esp. for the T1st Beta? Paul's trying to get on top of that, I believe...
harami2000 wrote:(And, of course, I'll happily pay $50 for any "T1stA" DMG with MM pages bound in....).
stormber wrote:as well as upcoming Tim Jiardini (Player of Arrarat from the Rogues Gallery and long time TSR employee/playtester)
stormber wrote:They are out there, perhaps as many as 4,000.
harami2000 wrote:stormber wrote:as well as upcoming Tim Jiardini (Player of Arrarat from the Rogues Gallery and long time TSR employee/playtester)Heh, heh... that's a familar name. Did you ask him before I mentioned?(Like I said, never got a response to the email I sent you after the auction, with his details & story...).
(And, of course, I'll happily pay $50 for any "T1stA" DMG with MM pages bound in....).
ifearyeti wrote:I'll see your $50 and raise $100.
stormber wrote:harami2000 wrote:(Like I said, never got a response to the email I sent you after the auction, with his details & story...).Sorry, if I missed your email, I didn't recall seeing one from you.
harami2000 wrote:(Like I said, never got a response to the email I sent you after the auction, with his details & story...).
mbassoc2003 wrote:ifearyeti wrote:I'll see your $50 and raise $100.For that sort of money you can have mine....Now where's that Pritt Stick (Uhu)
harami2000 wrote:Did they by any chance just re-bind in that signature (97/112), or was the reworking a rush job?
stormber wrote:O.K. I have had 5 people respond with 8 copies. One of them has discovered that they have a rebound one (listed as 1st Print Beta on the Acaeum).
harami2000 wrote:Maybe you can find a T1st Beta with distinguishing rebind indicators.... or variations in the page cut, as I mention above.Will send you a PM with my logic, Paul.
Stormber wrote:Thus you have one of the DMG's that was recalled, the MM pages removed and replaced by the proper DMG pages. The Acaeum lists this as a TRUE 1st Beta.
harami2000 wrote:Doesn't say anything in the above T1stBeta description about being originally printed with incorrect Monster Manual pages.I'd think that both the T1stAlphas (with MM pages, stated to be destroyed) and faulty T1stBetas (with the correct pages, but damaged covers) were rebound, with distinguishing evidence I just PM'd to you.But I don't have a rebound T1st Beta print (by the above description), I think.Let me know what you think, but I'd suspect another variant needs to be squeaked in there...