I wish you the Best of luck with this supposed buyer (coh80015 (1)) as he obviously does have a horrible feedback history. eBay Feedback Profile for coh80015 BTW: Beware of ZERO feedback bidders, buyers (dewardkb (0)) who apparently made a new E-Bay account just for this auction too.I really did want this book, but not for the price it is at now.... Anyway, as I said good luck to you, Aneoth
bclarkie wrote:Look how obvious a shill this one is. The seller listed the exact same auction 2 days after the first one ended with a zero bidder won the auction. if you look close at the pics, the seller actually used the same picture and just did a very poor editing job by browning out 2 of the end modules 1 on the top right and 1 on the bottom right. First one is the auction just put up today, the second one is the one that just ended on the 23rd. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &item=5952 646915&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &item=5951 519555&rd=1
killjoy32 wrote:sniping isnt a bad thing is it? i got an e-mail off a real angry guy once cos i sniped him in the last 3 seconds.....well it doesnt say you CANT do it? saves me getting dragged into a bidding war and then i get the item at the price i want....mind you darkseraphim has sniped me countless times but thats the fun of it i think.... thing is, some of these ebayers mentioned above, dont do themselves any favours in the way they have gone about what they are doing. maybe time will tell its own story if you check back on some of their future transactions and see what they get up to?
killjoy32 wrote:sniping isnt a bad thing is it?
beyondthebreach wrote:Ok, I am glad you started this thread. The subject of "shill" bidders seems to always come up in these forums. I have been active on these boards for awhile now and read all the posts. . . and except for a few rare exceptions, I think everybody here WAY OVERREACTS to potential shill bidding. In most cases, the dreaded "zero feedback" bidder is simply someone new to ebay. Aneoth, I checked the bid history of these 3 low feedback bidders on the auction and I have a hard time believing that any are shills. The one with poor feedback. . . they received 3 negs all at once back in 2002- most likely something happened that caused them to not be able to complete their transactions - all of which were with different sellers.The others have at least some bids with other sellers.Another recent question of shill bidding was brought up:bclarkie wrote:Look how obvious a shill this one is. The seller listed the exact same auction 2 days after the first one ended with a zero bidder won the auction. if you look close at the pics, the seller actually used the same picture and just did a very poor editing job by browning out 2 of the end modules 1 on the top right and 1 on the bottom right. First one is the auction just put up today, the second one is the one that just ended on the 23rd. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &item=5952 646915&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &item=5951 519555&rd=1 Absolutely no offense is meant, but I fail to see how it can be said: "Look how obvious a shill this is." Take a look at the bid history - I think it is obvious this is NOT a shill. The winner of the first auction ototatay was not only the first bidder on it, but he has also recently bid two other RPG items with different sellers. The other zero feedback bidder valefor14 just recently won a Birthright boxed set from another seller.Everyone needs to take a step back on this shill issue. Listen, I sell my fair share on ebay (probably more than most members here) and I can assure you all that there are plently of zero feedback bidders out there. I sell a good 25% of my items to users with 10 feedback or less. The erratic bidding of these "newbies" may seem like the actions of a shill bidder, but that's why they are great! They are legit and drive up the price on items because they are excited and just joined eBay to get a few items (or to start getting lots of items). They don't understand the intricacies of bidding, they probably haven't figured out how to navigate effectively through 4,000 auctions to find the best deal and they don't know how to value the worth of items through "completed" auctions (or just general experience).Back to the Birthright seller - to me it seems like they have bunch of Birthright stuff (hell, my local comic dealer has an original Cardboard "display" case for Birthright loaded with tons of duplicate, shrinkwrapped copies of unsold Birthright items - only they are still cover price!) Most likely the seller had duplicates of 22 items (the other two they only had one of) - so they took two pictures and blocked out the two for one auction and listed them for the other. It was easy to relist and they did so as soon as the first ended (no use running both at the same time!)Shill bidders are getting to be like an ebay Urban Legend - I know it happens, I'm not naive, but I am sure it is far, FAR less than is suspected. If you are worried, then just snipe the auction and be done with it. (The recent example pointed out by Ralf and the "CJ" "Seejay" certainly seems like a clearcut shill).
deimos3428 wrote:The great thing about being on a budget/cheap/poor: 95% shilling resistance. You save vs. Snipes at -5, unfortunately.
Marlith wrote:Shill bidder?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 20887&rd=1