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burntwire brothers
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:54 pm

Here is a recent auction we bid on but didn't win. Check the bid history.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MEDW:IT

Do you think this guy had two of everything? Also jmr828 pushed his other unrelated auctions up. :evil:

Here it is relisted shortly after the original auction ended:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

BUSTED!

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:20 pm

Definatly a fake bidder :evil:

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:47 am

really annoys you when you see things like that....

they should be hung, drawn & quartered!!!

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:29 pm

6943599413 Jan-17-05 Jan-24-05 10:09:16 US $7.75 Lot of 11Dungeons and Dragons Books jmr828 (*) tuffgruff01
4520774075 Jan-17-05 Jan-24-05 13:25:49 US $3.25 Lot of 11 Stephen King Books jmr828 (*) tuffgruff01
4520786734 Jan-17-05 Jan-24-05 14:11:05 US $12.50 Lot of 11 Anne Rice books whitestang32 (*) tuffgruff01
4520790230 Jan-17-05 Jan-24-05 14:26:29 US $12.01 Lot of 12 True Crime Books cammjamm (*) tuffgruff01

yup

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:35 pm

tell ya what draco, if thats not obvious enough for ebay to look into it, i dont think you will ever find an instance of suspicion where they will........

so unfair for the real bidders who actually want the stuff.

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:35 pm

Look how obvious a shill this one is. The seller listed the exact same auction 2 days after the first one ended with a zero bidder won the auction. if you look close at the pics, the seller actually used the same picture and just did a very poor editing job by browning out 2 of the end modules 1 on the top right and 1 on the bottom right. First one is the auction just put up today, the second one is the one that just ended on the 23rd.

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... eName=WDVW

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 5&rd=1

Looks like the "coug" was almost fell victim to this one.

btw-thanks burnt, you sniped my WGR1 for only $9.00....RATS!! :evil:

lol.

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:20 am

it really boggles the mind doesnt it? notice no feedback was left on the "0" bidder too

naughty, naughty

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Kosh Vorlontay
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:21 am

I guess Couge doesn't mind getting shilled because he is bidding on it again.

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:51 am

guess he wants the item to re-sell then eh? thing is also, the guy is bidding on soooooooooooooooo much stuff! man it must be real hard to keep track of it all thats all i have to say

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:24 am

bclarkie wrote:Look how obvious a shill this one is. The seller listed the exact same auction 2 days after the first one ended with a zero bidder won the auction. if you look close at the pics, the seller actually used the same picture and just did a very poor editing job by browning out 2 of the end modules 1 on the top right and 1 on the bottom right. First one is the auction just put up today, the second one is the one that just ended on the 23rd.

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... eName=WDVW

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 5&rd=1

Looks like the "coug" was almost fell victim to this one.

btw-thanks burnt, you sniped my WGR1 for only $9.00....RATS!! lol.

I'm not saying that's not a legit shill, but shit happens. I just had a guy win an auction for the Battletech novel Sword and the Dagger at $50, immediately afterwards he emailed saying his bid was a mistake, he wasn't going to pay for it (this was a Buy it Now). So, I just immediately relisted the item and resold it later. The first moron was a 0 bidder also (and he's about to get a neg in another couple months....) So sometimes you end up listing the exact same lot a few days or even hours later when a moron doesn't pay and let's you know up front.

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:48 pm

Why would you not send the info to eBay and have him banned?

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burntwire brothers
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:13 pm

bclarkie wrote:btw-thanks burnt, you sniped my WGR1 for only $9.00....RATS!! lol.

Didn't really expect to win that one. We needed a good play copy but wasn't willing to pay very much.

BTW:We will be listing our Mint Shrinkwrapped copy in about 4 or 5 weeks.

bclarkie
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:00 pm

burntwire wrote:
bclarkie wrote:btw-thanks burnt, you sniped my WGR1 for only $9.00....RATS!! lol.

Didn't really expect to win that one. We needed a good play copy but wasn't willing to pay very much.

BTW:We will be listing our Mint Shrinkwrapped copy in about 4 or 5 weeks.

I was kind of hoping for the same myself and that one seemed to be flying under the Radar. Oh well, sucks to be me. :oops:

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:43 pm

burnt, you really haven't given up collecting, have you... :wink:

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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:54 am

Deadlord36 wrote:Why would you not send the info to eBay and have him banned?

Dead you know how it works. I did send them the info, plus the emails he sent me, plus filed a NPB report. Got the same robotic responses you always get. Unless someone is a serial offender in this regard, they don't pay it much mind. So I'll be satisfied with him getting a NPB on his record, myself getting a refund, and he getting a nasty ass neg in about 67 more days when he's least expecting it.

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:28 pm

Can anyone think of good reason why, if a seller was going to shill his own auctions if he would find some benefit to have the shill bidder win several of them? I have noticed a relatively new seller on EBay, that seems to have this 1 bidder, bid on a majority of his auctions that he lists. Now that in itself certainly doesn't indicate a shill, but the problem I keep running into is that this "bidder" ONLY bids on this one sellers auctions and. That to me is what SCREAMS to me shill. The only thing that I can't figure out though, is that the bidder has won many of this sellers past auctions(lets say more than 9), which really throws a monkey wrench into my thinking. Granted the auctions won were not high value auctions, but still could it be. Thoughts anyone?

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:10 pm

bclarkie wrote:Can anyone think of good reason why, if a seller was going to shill his own auctions if he would find some benefit to have the shill bidder win several of them? I have noticed a relatively new seller on EBay, that seems to have this 1 bidder, bid on a majority of his auctions that he lists. Now that in itself certainly doesn't indicate a shill, but the problem I keep running into is that this "bidder" ONLY bids on this one sellers auctions and. That to me is what SCREAMS to me shill. The only thing that I can't figure out though, is that the bidder has won many of this sellers past auctions(lets say more than 9), which really throws a monkey wrench into my thinking. Granted the auctions won were not high value auctions, but still could it be. Thoughts anyone?

My guess is it's in essence a reserve without having to pay eBay's reserve fees.

Kosh Vorlontay
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:52 am

What is the time frame again for hitting someone with a neg feedback and not allowing them any time to hit you with a retalitory neg?

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