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bclarkie
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:59 pm

Has anyone else notice the guy that is ripping of Dark Seraphim's auction descriptions? I was wondering if he has even noticed it him self. Here is the sellers listings they start about halfway down:

eBay listings

I have actually dealt with Dark in the past and know that he is a first class guy, but I didn't feel comfortable enough just emailing him out of the blue and letting him know myself. Its against Ebay's rules to steal peoples listings, and I know from being a seller myself, how irritating it is when some steals your auction listings. I was just wondering if one of you other folks who may know him a little better that myself, could shoot him an email and let him know.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:10 pm

Done. We'll see how Kent feels about it; personally, I'd be pissed. I'm also going to send the seller a venom-filled e-mail.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:52 pm

I dont see what the big deal is personally. He has two clarifications and a rating system that dark uses and one that will probably be the acaeum's system too.

The comments are his own on top of that.

bclarkie wrote:Has anyone else notice the guy that is ripping of Dark Seraphim's auction descriptions? I was wondering if he has even noticed it him self. Here is the sellers listings they start about halfway down:

eBay listings

I have actually dealt with Dark in the past and know that he is a first class guy, but I didn't feel comfortable enough just emailing him out of the blue and letting him know myself. Its against Ebay's rules to steal peoples listings, and I know from being a seller myself, how irritating it is when some steals your auction listings. I was just wondering if one of you other folks who may know him a little better that myself, could shoot him an email and let him know.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:46 pm

Terminal_Frost wrote:The comments are his own on top of that.

Not from what I've seen. His "descriptions" are 100-percent cut-and-paste from previous Dark auctions. See the U1 or D1-2 listings for examples. And just typing "here is someone else's description" doesn't count as original thought.

Plus, it's just total bullshit. Why should this lazy SOB be rewarded for someone else's hard work? Dark's descriptions are entertaining and informative because he knows his stuff and he's done his research â€” if those factors manage to bring him a couple of extra bids now and then, he deserves it. Mr. Cut-And-Paste, on the other hand, has done NOTHING except ride someone else's coat-tails.

Finally, this practice directly violates eBay rules and the eBay user agreement. Our lazy friend fits the following example perfectly:

"The following examples are not allowed on eBay: A seller doesn't know the best way to describe an item. The seller copies a substantial amount of another's description and pastes it into a listing."

For eBay's full thoughts on the matter, here's the link:

eBay: Redirect

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:45 pm

I also think its wrong because, when a seller steals a listing like that, it can be confusing to some bidders(especially newbies), particuarly if they think that they are buying from a seller that they dealt with in the past, had a good experience with and don't recognize the name, but recognize the listing. On top of that, it may steer some folks away, because it may cause them to jump to conclusions and think "Hey, if this guy has 2 names that he is selling under, how many names could he be bidding under? Is it possible that he is shilling his own auctions?". It just isn't good for anyone, particularly the seller who is being stolen from.

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:14 am

i think half the fun of selling something is doing it your own way anyways.... not the way another does theirs...

and kent is a top guy too - i have dealt with him a few times as well and will no doubt do so again and again.

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:52 pm

I caught a guy ripping-off guido-the-gypsy's auction descriptions -- lame story and all! As if that wasn't obvious! I reported it to "Guido" who wrote a nice email back.

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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:56 am

red_dawn wrote:I caught a guy ripping-off guido-the-gypsy's auction descriptions -- lame story and all! As if that wasn't obvious! I reported it to "Guido" who wrote a nice email back.

Good Lord why would anyone WANT to steal those? They have single handedly prevented me from ever bidding on any of his auctions (that and he once bought a pile of beat up stuff from me that he turned around and resold as "Excellent" condition stuff, never trusted his descriptions after that...)

Mike B.

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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:14 pm

Badmike wrote:
red_dawn wrote:I caught a guy ripping-off guido-the-gypsy's auction descriptions -- lame story and all! As if that wasn't obvious! I reported it to "Guido" who wrote a nice email back.

Good Lord why would anyone WANT to steal those? They have single handedly prevented me from ever bidding on any of his auctions (that and he once bought a pile of beat up stuff from me that he turned around and resold as "Excellent" condition stuff, never trusted his descriptions after that...)

Mike B.

I can't understand why anyone would want to steal Guido's auction descriptions either. But I have to say that I have won several of his auctions in the past and have never had a problem with any of his items coming in worse shape than stated. He always does a good job of letting me know when my money arrived and when he is shipping the items. And he has always left feedback before I received my items. I haven't had the pleasure of purchasing any items from Dark yet. Seems like every time I try I always get outbid.

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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:07 pm

KingOfPain wrote:
Badmike wrote:
Good Lord why would anyone WANT to steal those? They have single handedly prevented me from ever bidding on any of his auctions (that and he once bought a pile of beat up stuff from me that he turned around and resold as "Excellent" condition stuff, never trusted his descriptions after that...)

Mike B.

I can't understand why anyone would want to steal Guido's auction descriptions either. But I have to say that I have won several of his auctions in the past and have never had a problem with any of his items coming in worse shape than stated. He always does a good job of letting me know when my money arrived and when he is shipping the items. And he has always left feedback before I received my items. I haven't had the pleasure of purchasing any items from Dark yet. Seems like every time I try I always get outbid.

Just my .02--Guido seems like an alright guy, and doesn't come off to me as person who will screw you, but man, that long stupid incomprehendable story has just got to go. I mean it really irritates the p*ss out of me. I guess it could be worse though, he could list all his things as "MINT", "ULTRA RARE!!!", and "SUPER HARD TO FIND!!!!!!!!" like everyone's old favorite Ebay seller did.

Btw, everytime I need a real good laugh, I just check out the old posts about the_game_emporium a.k.a the_eastern_treasure_chest, and just laugh my ass off. Funny stuff.

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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:50 am

I think that ripping off someone's info is completely wrong. The seller puts a lot of time and effort into the format. Why should someone else benefit? If the info is someone else's work, a "borrower" should request permission prior to cutting and pasting the info.

Of course, because of a certain previous situation with darkie, I also find it ironic that this is the second person noted that has stole his listing format.

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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:12 am

the game emporium eh? cor thats a name from the past - he stiffed me somewhere along the way - i ever find him he's gonna get bludgeoned to death with my +5 spoon

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