I was looking at  some auction prices on Ebay and came across this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6505053496

Item number 6505053496.  By the sounds of it, the seller thinks they are real but none of the Strategic review have any colour.  Are they fakes?

Mars wrote:I was looking at  some auction prices on Ebay and came across this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6505053496

Item number 6505053496.  By the sounds of it, the seller thinks they are real but none of the Strategic review have any colour.  Are they fakes?

My .02---> First off, the Stratgic Reviews do look really fake in the picture provided, because as you pointed out, there is clearly no color at all.  Secondly, in regards to the Dragons, of all the people that use this site and all the research and knowledge of its members that frequent it, it doesn't seem any one here has ever seen Dragon's produced and/or released in a commercial form in a PLAIN black binder. Also, notice the TOTAL lack of any writing, artwork, coloration, or engraving. I mean look at how Dragon Magazines are always so colorfully produced and artfully illustrated,  it just doesn't make sense that they all of a sudden out the blue the decided to produce these great magazines in these dull non-descript binders that don't even say Dragon Magazine on them.  On top of that, it seems pretty unlikely to me that you be able to fit 12 or 13 full size Dragon's in that binder, it is just way to thin.  If I had to guess, the previous owner either photocopied or physically removed the old magazine articles(leaving out all the ads, promos, etc.) and put it into the binder(s) accordingly. It could also be a situation where someone bought the Dragon Magazine Archive collection disks and just used the article pdfs,  printed them out by on a computer and put them in the binder.  Additionaly, the fact that the seller also is being totally evasive when being probed further about the auctions, just leads me even more to think that something is really amiss.  I wouldn't be going anywhere near those auctions and I would strongly suggest the same to others.

Mars wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6505053496
Item number 6505053496.  By the sounds of it, the seller thinks they are real but none of the Strategic review have any colour.  Are they fakes?

The buyer just received these today. Let's just say they're none too chuffed...

Even supplied me with a link to a useful online resource he found after my message reinforced his initial doubts.

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Cool site, apparently


Thanks again, <Mars>

beasterbrook wrote:I believe that Aaron had something like this a while back that someone had hardbound, maybe best to ask him... thats the only time I have seen it done..

Brette:)

Thanks for the reminder on that, Brette...

Yeah, it's the "commercially available product released around the era of issue #100" quote I really don't like the look of (and in combination with those SRs, too).
Early Dragons were valuable and scarce enough long before that to consider rebinding en-masse, I'm sure, and I never heard of that sort of reprint, either... especially in something so plain.

I've got the second volume bound (somewhere) and seen the first done in exactly the same format (went for $90-100 or thereabout, I think).
Would've guessed contemporary (like National Geographic and others used to do).
Looks nothing like those in the pics and somewhat thicker, even for a single volume.

#1-15 and #16-26 also makes no sense in numbering terms and the remaining issues ain't in brilliant nick, either.

Would be somewhat worried an optimistic or clueless snipe bid's gonna go over the reserve...

Sounds like someone may have had these bound, like libraries do.  Perhaps they're ex-library copies???

well if it was me selling to you and you genuinely wanted to know, i would make the most effort i could - cos you DO wanna sell it dont you? and after all, an extra few pics costs nothing at all really...... dont understand the mentality of some ppl at all. i have the same problem sometimes when i ask questions...you just bang your head against the wall....

*sigh* good luck in your findings mate!

red_dawn wrote:Interesting. This M&T Assortment lot isn't color either:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &item=5951 940160&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Note that this seller's "Private" feedback has tanked in the last month. (At least for now...) it shows as a 98% on the item page, but the details are very different.

hehe i just went to look and "the item has been removed by ebay" - figures tho doesnt it?

jut read it....i've seen juliabulia before - never dealt with but seems a cool ebayer to me...

i understand what the guy is saying, but imo hes out of order. $25 handling on 23 items doesnt seem excessive to me, after all its only like $1 or so per item. not saying i agree with it, but its hardly excessive. in the end hes stuck really, cos he didnt ask. i have been in the same position where someone has done that to me, but if you dont ask, then well its your own fault. and of course, in the end, if you really want the stuff, then its hardly extortion. i know a few ppl around who are damn good at that!

hardly fair to leave negs tho if youre happy with the items and the blackmailing scenario is just plain out of order..... poor juliabulia

yeah ppl who make their feedback private will always arouse my suspicion. i have an instance of that with someone i bought some books from and through another source i found out that they were total sh*t and nothing like what was advertised and am now on the verge of litigation against them - thats providing i can stop myself driving 40 miles to the guys warehouse and filling his face in first

but not long after the auction his feedback went private....what the muppet didnt realise, was that his feedback still showed up in the "ME" section....and so you could see what others were still putting

but yeah negs thru shipping - you will find most ppl are quite understanding and will see that for what it is, all coming from 1 person.

the seller should be more than clear about their shipping charges (incl handling) and the buyer should abide by whatever is quoted, whether you agree or not. you DONT change the amounts you send off your own back - what is that all about!!!

i think this is one of them instances, where you need someone to intervene to resolve the situation fairly for both parties....sort of like a mediating person? 11 negs should trigger something like that....