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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:18 pm 
 

I have this crazy collecting bug.  The D&D boxed sets I collect HAVE to be perfect-no dings, dents and preferably still in the shrink.  I don't really care about rarity, though it would be nice to have a couple of expensive pieces lying about. Since shipping damage has quelled my Ebay appetite, I was wondering if there were any notable gaming conventions that might attract dealers with the same vintage product for sale.  Any help with this topic would be great.  Thanks.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:06 pm 
 

GenCon and Origins are certainly good for hunting up rarities.  Shawn and Devon put together a report on these boards from the GenCon auction sometime not long after they returned....


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:24 pm 
 

GenCon is a great place to purchase OOP items. Some of the resellers at the convention want way to much though. I have tried to talk Crazy Egor down on a few items and he wouldn't budge. He states it costs $5000 to rent the convention space for the 4 days. Sometimes you can get deals at the auction if you don't mind sitting for hours and hours. We will be putting a few items in the GenCon auctions.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:38 pm 
 

burntwire wrote:GenCon is a great place to purchase OOP items. Some of the resellers at the convention want way to much though. I have tried to talk Crazy Egor down on a few items and he wouldn't budge. He states it costs $5000 to rent the convention space for the 4 days. Sometimes you can get deals at the auction if you don't mind sitting for hours and hours. We will be putting a few items in the GenCon auctions.

Shawn


I'd stay away from the big name cons if you want cool items at a good price, or even a steal.  I've had all my luck through the years at small regional cons where often you have game store owners clearing out the back room which has OOP stuff, or joe public just wanting to dump his old D&D stuff.  I could go on and on stuff I have found at small cons compared to big cons.  One of the funniest memories is attending an Origins con years ago. a big name dealer was set up with gaming stuff, he was charging $20 or more for PHOTOCOPIES of some hard  to find OOP items, and about five times more for the real thing.  I'm sorry my memory is not perfect here, but the one item I remember specifically was FR5 The Savage Frontier, he wanted $20 for a photocopy or $50 for the real thing.  He was asking $100 each for Grenadier gold box miniatures, in the original boxes,  that had been inexpertly painted and were quite used (you can get the same thing on Ebay for half that).  What Burnt said is true, those guys at the big cons have to pay for their spaces.
   In contrast, here are a few deals (once again, memory is shot at my old age) I found at regional cons....one year at Aggie Con (a great con that Texas A&M has had the last 30 years or so) I found a complete set of Different Worlds and Space Gamer magazines, a buck each, these are all in my personal collection now.  Also found a complete set of the Canadian gaming magazine The Apprentice and some other hard to find gaming mags.  In a small gaming con in Dallas about ten years ago I got a complete run of JG stuff (this was when JG stuff was still hard to find), including the City State stuff and other rarities, I think the guy charged cover price and it was still in the shrink!  A con out in Tyler Tx a few years ago, very small town but has a regional college I believe, I found 2-3 (can't remember exactly how many) From the Ashes boxed sets still SW, cover price, from a game store owner (the guy was cleaning out his back room!!!) Now, sometimes small cons suck and nobody has anything, but I think the potential to make a great buy is much bigger simply because the seller doesn't know what he's got most of the time, and you don't have much competition being an Acaeum stud!
    Anyway, my advice would be the hit the big cons to see the big names, the big retailers,  and have a good time, but hit the small cons for the good deals!

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:05 am 
 

Odin, I wouldn't give up on eBay if I were you. . . just start to get very particular.  Create a "form" question that you send to sellers in advance. State your interest in their item and ask if they will package it to your standards.

Request that they:

- Put the box set into some form of plastic protection (even a shopping bag will help - this prevents accidental minor abrasions)
- Specifically state that you want it shipped in a Priority Box (priority mail will also reduct transit time, which reduces potential damage)
- Specifically state that the item be wrapped in bubble wrap (or at the least foam/other packing material).  It must not "bump" around in the box.
-Be polite, even offer to include an extra $1 or so to cover their packaging fees (and state that you will gladly pay the priority cost.  Flat Rate boxes are only $7.70)
- Be particular about who you buy from and make note of those sellers you can trust.  If the seller balks at your request or in any way seems like they won't follow your instructions, then simply don't buy it from them.  


In the end, you may pay a bit more for postage, but I am sure it will be cheaper than going to cons and making purchases (though going to cons can still be fun).  :)


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:38 am 
 

I was at a smaller con a few years back and I found a dealer cleaning out his back room as well.  I got many shrink wrapped high value items including 3 copies of Planescape Bloodwar, 3 copies of planes of conflict and heaps of other stuff (about a 4 foot high stack actually).  The guy gave me a wicked deal about 70% off retail.  He thought I was a nut and I went on the sell all the multple copies and extras I bought for tons O' cash.

Another good example of where to buy good quality items.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:03 pm 
 

beyondthebreach wrote:Odin, I wouldn't give up on eBay if I were you. . .


Agreed. You are NEVER going to do better than eBay — a truly global marketplace that operates 24/7/365 and doesn't require you to leave your house is pretty tough to beat.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:54 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:
beyondthebreach wrote:Odin, I wouldn't give up on eBay if I were you. . .


Agreed. You are NEVER going to do better than eBay — a truly global marketplace that operates 24/7/365 and doesn't require you to leave your house is pretty tough to beat.


Yeh, but you'll hardly ever get a DEAL on ebay anymore.....let's face it, we all know about it and give it a looksee on occasion.  Nothing is slipping by Acaeum members, heck we even have a thread dedicated to interesting items on Ebay.  I barely shop there anymore myself, I just can't buy stuff at a price I'm comfortable with for reselling.  Used bookstores or small cons if you want to get a deal!

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:30 pm 
 

If you are collecting rather than re-selling I submit it would be virtually impossible to finish a collection without buying some stuff on Ebay.  Ebay is still less expensive than some of the online D&D memorabliia stores as well!


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:43 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
Xaxaxe wrote:
Agreed. You are NEVER going to do better than eBay — a truly global marketplace that operates 24/7/365 and doesn't require you to leave your house is pretty tough to beat.


Yeh, but you'll hardly ever get a DEAL on ebay anymore.....let's face it, we all know about it and give it a looksee on occasion.  Nothing is slipping by Acaeum members, heck we even have a thread dedicated to interesting items on Ebay.  I barely shop there anymore myself, I just can't buy stuff at a price I'm comfortable with for reselling.  Used bookstores or small cons if you want to get a deal!

Mike B.

It's hard to find a deal anywhere -- of the few remaining gaming stores in my area, all are selling common items at ridiculous prices, if they sell D&D at all.  CM series modules in VG or worse for $40, you get the idea.  

eBay is a little better, there are rarer items available, common items go for a bit less, but as you've mentioned, nothing of collectable value is "slipping by" everyone, and I don't have the dollars to bid against the big guys.  I still salivate everytime I discover a used book store I haven't checked out, because that's probably my only shot at a deal -- an uninformed offline seller.  That's how I obtained the one rare I do have, and it's been a decade, so I'm about due for a find.  :D

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:04 pm 
 

deimos wrote:

It's hard to find a deal anywhere -- of the few remaining gaming stores in my area, all are selling common items at ridiculous prices, if they sell D&D at all. CM series modules in VG or worse for $40, you get the idea.


I know the feeling South Florida has been picked dry……by me!  :lol: There's no deals left I've even considered a road trip lately up the coast to the Pan-Handle and hit a few used bookstores and shops I know of, but I'm sure I'll be disappointed :cry: . I haven't found a barn find in years, but I'm still waiting on my buddy Steve's mom to send his books from Letchworth, UK with a promised ST1 in the mix 8O . I saw it with my own eyes in 88 when I was there so I know it's legit. I hope almost twenty years haven't done its toll on the module, and yes we told her to be very careful in packing it for shipping.


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