invincibleoverlord wrote:Harami wrote:

Yep; very close I must admit: sat there for five minutes looking at the button thinking about my credit card.

Will let it pass to IO or whoever.

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Well; if not one Mike, then <improv>, phps?

harami2000 wrote:

invincibleoverlord wrote:Harami wrote:





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Well; if not one Mike, then <improv>, phps?

Hmm ... I may be mistaken but the bin price yetserday was  £350 and today it is  £400??

The description and photo have been added, and a copy of the White Dwarf DVD is being thrown in (I can't seem to shift them).

Over on DF in Steve's Q&A thread @ Dragonsfoot • View topic - Q&A With Steve Marsh I posted the following comment in response to one of Ian's and Steve's posts:

grodog wrote:

Steve Marsh wrote:I'd love to see things published.  Unfortunately, when I sold the tournament module copies I sold my personal copies, I don't have any copies of the material.  If one of the people who got one when Paul sold them wants to adapt it for publishing and sell it, I wish them all the best luck in the world.  They are even welcome to 50% authorship credit and a 50/50 split on any sales revenue.  Editing and clean-up are well worth half the credit and half the copyright.

[snip]I think that the auction winners weren't interested at the time.

I agree: I tried to rally the Acaeum auction winners around the idea of publishing Steve's materials, but there was no interest at the time by the top 5 winners; see the thread @ EGG / Stephen Marsh manuscript  

Perhaps things have changed, now that we've seen at least one good, solid ms. reproduction published so far (Bottle City), and  we can gather the disparate elements together to see them published.  Thoughts?

So, I'm going to raise the question again:  are the current owners of the Starstrands and Planes of Existence and City of Revenant and related materials willing and interested in coming together to publish them?  It appears that they key threads are this one and the ones @
"City of the Revenant" 1978 D&D tournament adv and
The BIG show of hands!

I thought I had summarized in one of the threads who the key players were, in terms of the ms. owners, but I can't find that post now.  My (quite possibly off) recollection is that they were David/harami, Mike/io, Ian/mbassoc, and one or two others who I don't recall.  

FWIW, I envision a Bottle-City-like production in terms of original materials, with notes/commentary, and potentially expansions on the original materials into a fully-playable format.  That's way down the road, though

Any thoughts/input, and pointers to the other mss. owners would be appreciated!

grodog wrote:FWIW, I envision a Bottle-City-like production in terms of original materials, with notes/commentary, and potentially expansions on the original materials into a fully-playable format.  That's way down the road, though

excellent idea pity was not kept together at start

Doing something like the Bottled City sounds good.  Has any idea about the over all costs and management of it?  I'm happy to help if I can.

Mars wrote:I asked on Dragonsfoot but I'll ask again here.  Doesn't Paul have an archival copy of these?

was only done starting rjk?? thought was other archive copy for revenaunt but might be wrong

Howdy All,


The Collector's Trove archiving service was offered to Steve but he had come to a point where he was letting go of both the physical and spiritual possession of these various projects and manuscripts. I had even taken much of the material to an intellectual property lawyer to see if Steve could gain restitution for all of his lost royalties on his considerable contributions to the D&D and AD&D games. The opinion of the IP lawyer was that the ship had sailed and it would cost Steve dearly to pursue such a thing vs. Hasbro.

Steve decided to let it go after that. It had been years of his heart and soul put into it and the project never came to fruition. So Steve decided that there would be no archive.

I received a little heat for doing archives for later collections but, to be perfectly clear, there would have been no auctions for Bottle City or for the Castle Greyhawk levels or for The Dungeon Hobby Shop Dungeon or for many other items. The archive was the only thing that made way for those auctions.

While, I was initially hesitant on creating archives for collection owners, I am now fully confident that it was the right choice. If I had to do it over again, I would have insisted that I make an archive for Steve.

Outside of RPG collecting there are many highly valuable documents that are fully archived and that does not affect their value one bit e.g., The Magna Carta. Nonetheless, some have bemoaned the fact that they do not have the sole possession of the information. I completely understand that feeling. It is clearly a double-edged sword.

Now we have a prime example of why these archives are so important. Here's hoping that we finally get to see Steve's version of the Planes of Existence, Revenaunt, and Starstrands.


Futures Bright,

Paul

The Collector's Trove wrote:I received a little heat for doing archives for later collections but, to be perfectly clear, there would have been no auctions for Bottle City or for the Castle Greyhawk levels or for The Dungeon Hobby Shop Dungeon or for many other items. The archive was the only thing that made way for those auctions.

And relatedly, without the archives, there would never have been a print edition of Bottle City, nor any other future "original manuscript" publications from RJK (or anyone else Paul sold/will sell for.  

Hopefully we'll be able to muster the collectors to the cause!