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Post Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:02 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Let me see, the 161 negs in one year wasn't a tipoff you shouldnt be doing business with the guy? I mean, if you walk in a bad neighborhood at night with a $100 bill pasted to your forehead, whose fault is it when you get mugged? Plus never buy from anyone with feedback under 98%, and never buy from anyone who is obscure about shipping prices..you're only getting setup for a fall.

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I should add that last year I didn't follow my own advice and got screwed. A guy charged $15 shipping for a box of magazines, I didn't think about it until I got the items....no padding, no bags on the mags, nothing, just a stack of magazines rattling around in a cheap cardboard box....no insurance, no delivery confirmation...and the shipping on the box was not even $8.  I was so shocked, the guy had like 100% feedback too.  I can't believe if that was part of his usual MO he hadn't got more negs, but in truth he was upfront about the cost so I only had myself to blame for not saying something at the time.  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:07 pm 
 

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Badmike wrote:
I charge a flat $8 to ship to Canada, $7 is for the global priority envelope and $1 for handling, but I'll cram as many items as the buyer wants into one envelope for the single price.  BTW, the extra complicated customs paperwork takes exactly 1 minute to do.....

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BTW, have any of you US sellers or Canadian buyers had an item returned due to the new "security" measures supposed to keep the world safe from harm?  The security measure where you have to write the addressing info in ALL CAPS or they threaten to return the item? Ditto if you don't include the full name of the addressee.  I haven't had a problem yet, I'm wondering if it's more bark than bite, but I've been capitalizing my addresses on Canadian orders regardless so something doesn't sit in customs for weeks.

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Thanks Mike, us backwords igloo dweeling canadians appreciate efforts like yours. :)  :)  :)

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:17 pm 
 

well I don't look at everyones feedback before I bid sometimes... that was one of them.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:33 pm 
 

This has happened to me once, where the guy wanted to ship everything seperately after he told me he would combine it "AFTER" I emailed him and asked if he would combine it. Of course thank the gods, I had saved his e-mail quoting him telling me he would. So he cussed me out in an email and sent me the package.Well, I was very surprised to see the package! I opened it up and there were the modules all CUT UP! But the funny thing was--I was so surprised to see the package because I NEVER SENT THE PAYPAL! I double checked it and  I never sent the payment. So I figure the guy is just a total nutcase right? I guess he got so mad he just couldnt think straight--serves him right.
         My vote has to go with the majority--finish your checklist first:ie--chk feedback/chk payment options/ chk where pkg is coming from-as overseas have different laws concerning this kinda thing, I believe you have to deal with THE SELLERS "LAWS" not the United States laws as far as getting ripped off and all that. And if the seller decides he is going to rip you off on shipping, ask him to combine shipping or you will not buy(In a nice and polite way,e-mail has a way of being read "wrong/offensively".

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:02 am 
 

Well he told me he always combines shipping costs for multiple wins in his auctions: Here is his invoice.....

Item #  Item Title  Qty.   Price  
5945244078  AD&D Tomes - The Rod of Seven Parts  1   US $20.55  
5945246088  Mark of Amber - Audio CD Adventure  1   US $5.00  
5945245345  AD&D Red Steel - 2 boxed sets NEW  1   US $20.50  
     
Subtotal:   US $46.05  
Shipping and handling via US Postal Service Media Mail: US $21.00     MEDIA MAIL!?
Total:   US $67.05  

Combined Cost for all the items above was 46.05
Shipping was half the total cost.... and it is MEDIA MAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His original listing notes 10 bucks for the first two Box Set listings and 7 bucks for the CD Adventure. Combining Shipping costs only saved 6 bucks!?!? WHY BOTHER????

Yes, I know the combined costs still make this a good deal overall, but I hate being robbed like this by shipping costs. And its not like he admitted it was handling costs either. He said it was shipping costs. and it is MEDIA MAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a deal!! I should have bought ALL of this guys stuff!!!!
Then I could have paid hundreds to ship what should only cost 10.
I just mailed off 10 pounds of books by Parcel Post (2 days delivery) for HALF that much!!!!!(10.55) AND IT WAS NOT MEDIA MAIL!!!!!!

I just won two more of his auctions for two more box sets and I am now being charged an additional 12 bucks!!!!!!!! 8O  
$33 shipping charges for five box sets and one CD!!! 8O

Simply rediculous!!!! :roll:


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:21 am 
 

best tell us who the culprit is so we can avoid him as well.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:57 am 
 

Man Anoeth; you've had some bad luck lately. Banned from auctions, crushed boxes, and now being way overcharged for shipping. Are you kidding me talk about the pitfalls of collecting 8O ; you might take Frank's place as the Acaeum's bad boy :twisted: . What I love about you is you're not afraid to speak out when you feel you've been wronged, most people including myself say #[email protected]# it and just move on to the next. I've realistically been collecting RPG's for ten years now and only been buying on the Bay for about a year 1/2 and I've had more disputes than I care to discuss :x . I've just given up and take the good with the bad, but I guess that's always been my collecting philosophy. One day you get a Jade Rabbit :wink: in a Basic boxed set and the next overcharged shipping on a few common modules it's crazy :lol: . I pray the 05 will bring better collecting days for you, but feel free to keep up the ranting I love reading you're posts. Keeps me informed! :D

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:50 pm 
 

You're an idiot if you pay him the shipping. Honestly, I'd tell him to shove the auctions up his ass.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:49 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:You're an idiot if you pay him the shipping. Honestly, I'd tell him to shove the auctions up his ass.


Too right. Keep your money and BLAST the guy with negatives. Then please post a link to the auctions here, so that I can add this guy to my No-Way List.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:04 pm 
 

Whoops, never mind — I see you included the item numbers above.

Man, is this guy an idiot; why don't some sellers realize that this sort of thing will cost them future business?

Just taking the Rods auction as an example, it's interesting to note that $10 will send TWENTY-SEVEN POUNDS worth of goods via media mail. For $7.70, he could use the new Priority Mail flat-rate box and everyone would be happy. Of course, I realize he is a shipping privateer and making people happy doesn't matter to him, but still ...

On the other hand, he did clearly list the shipping cost in the auction. I loathe defending idiots, but that should have been a huge red flag to any potential bidders.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:37 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:Well he told me he always combines shipping costs for multiple wins in his auctions: Here is his invoice.....

Item #  Item Title  Qty.   Price  
5945244078  AD&D Tomes - The Rod of Seven Parts  1   US $20.55  
5945246088  Mark of Amber - Audio CD Adventure  1   US $5.00  
5945245345  AD&D Red Steel - 2 boxed sets NEW  1   US $20.50  
     
Subtotal:   US $46.05  
Shipping and handling via US Postal Service Media Mail: US $21.00     MEDIA MAIL!?
Total:   US $67.05


UPDATE! Take a look at the very bottom of the auction pages — under "seller's instructions," we have:

"Shipped by parcel post. Will offer discount shipping if purchasing multiple auctions. Please contact me immediately upon winning. Shipping quote is for USA only. Canadians add $5.00 to shipping quote."

You should now DEMAND that these go out parcel post instead of media mail. You've also got a very legitimate beef, should this matter ever need to be reviewed by eBay or PayPal: every seller is responsible for their own words.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:50 pm 
 

Deanna Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

The shipping fees help to cover our cost on the ebay items.  Everything you've purchased is brand new.    I'm sorry if you feel this is unfair, but  you have saved almost $100.00 from retail prices even with shipping cost.  We did state the fees and we did give a $2.00 discount for each item won.

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Deanna,

Thanks for responding. Please send me one invoice for the grand total I now owe for all of the auctions that I won from your listings. Please DO NOT refund two dollars per item. I want to be billed for the total of all of the items and all of the shipping costs as well, including the e-bay mark up. No need to give me any breaks.

But, in return for my money, I want something too. I want your word that the items will be SAFELY packed and SAFELY shipped in a TIMELY manner by PARCEL POST, not by Media Mail... I just want the items to arrive at my shipping address safely. That is all I want.

If all of that happens, then we can part friends and move on.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:53 pm 
 

Now, this is what I wanted to send to her, but decided not to.


Deanna,

"The shipping fees help to cover our cost on the ebay items."

If that is the case, then please STOP calling them SHIPPING costs in your listings. As you stated below, they most certainly are NOT all shipping costs. They are shipping, and handling, and E-BAY COSTS.... and simply padded price costs.

"I'm sorry if you feel this is unfair, but…."
Of course it is unfair. That's why I e-mailed you folks to voice my thoughts on the matter. As I stated in my last E-Mail. I shipped 10 POUNDS of hardback books for 10.55 Yesterday and the buyer will get his items in 2 days. How long will it take to get my items using media mail at a far higher rate….

We both know it does NOT take 33 dollars to ship 10 or less pounds of stuff to ANYWHERE in the USA. So please stop calling your charges SHIPPING costs!

"…you have saved almost $100.00 from retail prices"

No kidding? Do you think perhaps that is why 150 million people shop on E-Bay?
They shop on E-Bay to save money, not be ripped by silly shipping costs. I could have saved some money on some of those items by going to the game shop down the road a bit. I thought as an experienced E-Bay seller your store would give me a better break on the shipping than you did. My mistake, in thinking good things….

"We did state the fees and we did give a $2.00 discount for each item won."
What a generous offer… not….

I have a better plan, instead let's help out your retirement account a tad more; you can keep your 2 dollars for each auction…. BUT, in return I will require that each and every item by well packed in its own protective shipping box. Not a padded envelope, and not loosely packed in the box so that they flop about in the box and become damaged in transit. If ANY of the items come to me messed up in any way, then of course I shall give your store negative feedback on each one that is damaged…. And by the way I want them ALL shipped parcel post. As your auction states. NOT BY MEDIA MAIL….

I shall await your revised invoices for each separate auction.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:20 pm 
 

invincibleoverlord wrote: Man Anoeth; you've had some bad luck lately. Banned from auctions, crushed boxes, and now being way overcharged for shipping. Are you kidding me talk about the pitfalls of collecting 8O ; you might take Frank's place as the Acaeum's bad boy :twisted: . What I love about you is you're not afraid to speak out when you feel you've been wronged, most people including myself say #[email protected]# it and just move on to the next.


I mind not at all being labeled the "Acaeum Bad Boy".

"….you're not afraid to speak out when you feel you've been wronged …."
You are quite right.

One of the few things that will get me riled to the point of anger is when someone is trying to rip me off. I will simply NOT allow it... for any reason.  :evil: I don't give a hoot who they are, or who they know... A rip off is a rip off.... and I will not stand by being shy :oops: nor will I ever be too embarrassed :oops:  to say something while someone takes my families hard earned money by screwing with me, or my family. :evil:

If I get booted off of E-Bay because I have stood up for my right NOT to get screwed, then I do not need E-Bay….and to tell the truth I never really did anyway. I have only been on E-Bay for two years and was just as happy not knowing it was even there.  :idea: And I had more spending money then too..... :roll:

If I am eventually booted for receiving too many negative feedbacks, for not taking any crap from a-holes like the one above, then I will simply find another source for my collecting habits. Or find another hobby altogether. Or, perhaps I could start improving myself through taking college courses and collecting hours instead of collecting D&D books, D&D modules, and boxes of D&D stuff, and fancy paper cards with stats and pictures of millionaire football players on them....


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:43 pm 
 

Aneoth is experiencing the same frustrations I had when I was buying heaps of stuff on Ebay.  Aneoth is not a bad boy :? he just wants the stuff he bid on shipped to him for the price he paid and to arrive in good shape.  The way I look at it is if you are going to charge higher shipping just SAY IT IN THE AUCTION AND IT BETTER ARRIVE UNDAMAGED.  I do not mind paying a little more as long as it gets to me in good shape.  I go through this a little myself; it seems most of the sellers are way more interested in getting the cash as appossed to actually send a quaility item safely.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:12 pm 
 

Well I for one am not on aneoth's side. The guy is a liar. I would never ever do any sending or business with him again.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:13 pm 
 

Yep. I still think you're a fool if you pay it.
I was told long ago that it is illegal to charge "eBay fees". Might want to research that.
If you want to be foolish and pay, then do this: Pay for ONE item. When it arrives, pay for the next. Etc, etc. If there are any issues, rape her with negs and create another eBay account. You mostly buy anyways, so it won't be a big deal.
If you cave in, you just feed the fires of idiocy. But it's up to you.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:47 am 
 

maxwell wrote:Well I for one am not on aneoth's side. The guy is a liar. I would never ever do any sending or business with him again.


Who rang your bell....?  8O

We (Me, you and the members of this forum) have already been through all of that, and far more than we wanted several weeks ago. Please move one with your life. Why make these accusations and bear false witness now? After all this time?

YOU sent me damaged goods, and now it is painfully obvious that you cannot seem to let it go, and with the statements in your post above, it now also seems likely that you did all of that on purpose as some sort of pay-back for my having won that red box set for the single penny that you started the auction with. Had you ever not noted or cared to ask how much my high bid was for that box set? Was it my doing that no one else bid and it so that I won it for a penny?! Of course not!! Next time perhaps you could BEGIN the auction with your bottom line price, instead of trying to be cute with a one penny starting price.

I have spent large amounts of money on your auctions and if you had not done what you did, then you would have gotten many more USD's from me as well.

I have won lots of other items from those auctions and not a single one of them came to me damaged until that red box set did. That is why I E-Mailed you asking WHY?!?!

All this crap speaks volumes about your own integrity not mine. Calling someone a liar is heavy stuff. But, where and what are the lies? Do you deny sending the unprotected red box set in the large padded envelope loose, with no additional packing, or other means to protect the box and the other contents of the envelope? Do you deny charging me the shipping costs for sending the items in a much safer way??  Does it matter one iota that the box only cost me a penny? HELL NO it does not!!! Especially since there were other far more expensive items sent at the same time, also bounced around in the large envelope unprotected.

Where are my lies? What did I say that was not true?

If anyone here doubts my claims from that situation, then let them ask me. I still have the envelope right behind me with your mailing label attached with YOUR name on it as the sender. And I can take pictures of it if need be, I can even post the pictures right here on this forum for all to see and make their own opinions about which of us is more believable.

Now stop typing silly stuff on your computer keyboard and move on with your pathetic life. Not a single person here believes your accusations and false claims, and if they do then I care not for dealing with them anyway. The fact that you refunded my money also speaks volumes to deny your "The guy is a liar." statement and the fact that after so much time elapsed from that nasty little episode until your post above is not good for your own cause either.

Get on with your life and leave me the hell alone…. This is NOT YOUR personal forum from which you can make false accusations and attempted character assassinations, and it is NOT your web site. If Scott or the Acaeum members wants me gone, then all he or they need do is tell me as much and I would disappear like so much dust in the wind. Until then however, I shall remain a member of this forum for as long as I choose to.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:03 am 
 

Aneoth wrote:
maxwell wrote:Well I for one am not on aneoth's side. The guy is a liar. I would never ever do any sending or business with him again.


Who rang your bell....?  8O

We (Me, you and the members of this forum) have already been through all of that, and far more than we wanted several weeks ago. Please move one with your life. Why make these accusations and bear false witness now? After all this time?


Guys, chill.  It's not annoying to hear people bitch, (kinda fun, actually), but when it gets personal it just drives off members and wastes everyone's time.  Leave it on the gaming table, and roll the dice to see who's right.   :D    And please, leave the biblical references outta it (false witness?), cuz we all know Odin is the one true god.

Sorry to hear about the excessive shipping/handling, Aneoth.  More annoying is seeing how sellers think that they can charge an additional $5 the second it hits the border.   :roll:

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:42 pm 
 

It's not about the box costing one penny. Its about you saying on the board. "This is the second time I have emailed the seller". That statement is not true.

I refunded all your money and then some. You got to keep the stuff as well. I am sure that getting some bent items and a crushed box with the stuff inside in still decent if not better condition plus all your money back with some thrown in on top because you said in your email" I have spent quite a bit of money on your auctions, probably almost 100 bucks". I sent you 100 USD. So once again you made out like a bandit.

So that is the reason you are a liar. You didnt contact me twice. Only once, and I made everything 250% in your favor as soon as the first email was sent. Keep keeping with the facts so they don't get polluted.

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