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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:03 am 
 

i thought you couldnt offload the paypal fees to the buyer? i was under the impression that ebay stopped that last year? hmmm



  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:22 am 
 

draco76 wrote:.....if your going to borrow a pic get a good one!

Borrow? Hell, he stole it and everyone here now knows he did. I will be placing him on my no-bid lists. Lets call a thief a thief....

No one with any sense of fair play and a decent level of business acumen would STEAL a picture that shows damaged goods and then pass off his listing as being for undamaged goods.

What an asshole.............. and  a complete idiot as well! If he steals pictures (And worse, bad ones), then what is stopping him from ripping off buyers??

Nothing....


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:31 am 
 

lol stealing a picture isn't a big deal, its just the fact that he has it like its the one he is selling.  He claims his is like 9/10 the one shown have cover damage in the pic, its really gonna cost him money in the end.  

It makes the other one I have listed look much nicer hehe

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:01 pm 
 

I asked the guy about the book. I said it looks like theres a mark where he took a sticker off it. He said that the picture wasn't actually of the book he was selling, that his was near mint, and that he'd nicket the picture off of another auction.

I also asked him about PayPal fees. He said if I was dumb enough to buy stuff on eBay with my credit card, I should be screwed anyways.

What an asshole!

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:36 pm 
 

You might want to shoot him this link: Payment surcharges policy

Seems it has a little language in it that states, rather succinctly that thou shalt not pass along ty paypal charges to thy customer.  Specifically, it mentions that you cannot pass along the fees for electronic transfers to the customer, as it violates laws in several states, as well as the state of California, which happens to be where Ebay is based.



  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:42 pm 
 

Question to the seller:

Please look at pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-su ... arges.html.  On that page it states "Sellers may not charge eBay buyers an additional fee for their use of ordinary forms of payment, including acceptance of checks, money orders, >>electronic transfers<< or credit cards."

(Emphasis is mine)

Do you still believe that you're not in violation of the Ebay TOS given the information presented above?



  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:07 pm 
 

All thieves must be punished. Even stealing a picture is wrong, especially when you are an asshole about it.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:44 pm 
 

Traveller wrote:You might want to shoot him this link: Payment surcharges policy

Seems it has a little language in it that states, rather succinctly that thou shalt not pass along ty paypal charges to thy customer.


Good catch; I thought I knew most of eBay's ins-and-outs, but I didn't know that rule.

However, just to play devil's advocate, isn't it still okay to charge whatever you want as a "handling fee?" Or, to put it another way, isn't the mistake this clown is making is that he's SPECIFICALLY calling it PayPal charges in his listings? Don't get me wrong — I am NOT on this guy's side. I'm just wondering ...

These "handling charges" seem to have become more and more of an issue over the past couple of years. I wonder if the day is coming when eBay takes an official stance on them (i.e., allowing them, limiting them, disallowing them, or whatever).

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:49 pm 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:All thieves must be punished. Even stealing a picture is wrong, especially when you are an asshole about it.


Amen to that. I really don't understand some of the "live and let live" responses to this subject.

It's stealing. It specifically violates the eBay user agreement. It shows great laziness. None of these are good things ...

Personally, I take GREAT pleasure in reporting every violator I come across. :evil:

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:33 pm 
 

Looks to me like he's already lined up for a beating.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:20 pm 
 

The ass changed the auction picture, and rescinded the paypal fee, though in his reply, he claims that he's permitted to do so from a discussion with an Ebay representative.  Of course he complained that I must be poor if I had nothing better to do than complain about the paypal fee.  Boy, I guess he doesn't know how poor I am after finally getting a copy of Blackmoor at a decent price and topping the cougar in the process (as if that was difficult in this instance).



  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:24 pm 
 

Traveller wrote:The ass changed the auction picture, and rescinded the paypal fee, though in his reply, he claims that he's permitted to do so from a discussion with an Ebay representative. Of course he complained that I must be poor if I had nothing better to do than complain about the paypal fee. Boy, I guess he doesn't know how poor I am after finally getting a copy of Blackmoor at a decent price and topping the cougar in the process (as if that was difficult in this instance).


Looks like this jack ass got booted from his GDQ1-7 auction, but he's back now and he's acting like an even bigger ass hole.

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 0&rd=1


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:52 pm 
 

I really want to buy items from this chap - he seems to go out of his way to make the potential customers life easier!   8O
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:58 pm 
 

Since when is a phone number required by customs?

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:08 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Looks like this jack ass got booted from his GDQ1-7 auction, but he's back now and he's acting like an even bigger ass hole.

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& ... 0&rd=1


What an interesting selling strategy — come out firing with a whole string of "won't" and "don't" rules and an overwhelmingly negative attitude. Then, follow up with some of the worst digital photography in eBay history. Doesn't it just make you want to reach for that "place bid" button?  :?

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:15 pm 
 

Please somebody tell me where this myth started, because I see it a lot.

cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&a ... 4&rd=1

Repeat after me folks: the Fiend Folio is not rare.  Any printing.  Ever.  It also sticks out like a sore thumb next to the rest of the nicely matching orange spines, but I digress.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:15 pm 
 

Worse, how are you supposed to pay him?

He doesn't take checks.
He doesn't take paypal because they caught him.
He doesn't take charge cards.
He doesn't take "convenience" store money orders.

That means he only accepts bank checks, and money orders from the post office OR a place that isn't a convenience store.  I wonder what he'd do if I sent him a money order from Wal*Mart?  Why not just come out and say, "no money orders," because there is no way in hell he can prove that it came from a convenience store? Case in point is the 7-Eleven across the street from me.  The money orders they sell happen to be Western Union.  That's about as big a name in the money biz as you can get and not be a bank.

Perhaps if he wasn't such an asswipe he'd get better results on his auctions.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:14 pm 
 

probably did him a favor better pic, thats not a 9/10 lol it looks like a vgc to me notice the bad creasing in the upper right hand corner. His bag even looks dirty lol.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:53 pm 
 

I think I'd have better luck just getting the individual modules.



  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:18 am 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:
Traveller wrote:You might want to shoot him this link: Payment surcharges policy

Seems it has a little language in it that states, rather succinctly that thou shalt not pass along ty paypal charges to thy customer.


Good catch; I thought I knew most of eBay's ins-and-outs, but I didn't know that rule.

However, just to play devil's advocate, isn't it still okay to charge whatever you want as a "handling fee?" Or, to put it another way, isn't the mistake this clown is making is that he's SPECIFICALLY calling it PayPal charges in his listings? Don't get me wrong — I am NOT on this guy's side. I'm just wondering ...

These "handling charges" seem to have become more and more of an issue over the past couple of years. I wonder if the day is coming when eBay takes an official stance on them (i.e., allowing them, limiting them, disallowing them, or whatever).


What's silly is that while you can't SPECIFICALLY call any extra "shipping" fees compensation for Ebay or Paypal fees, in practice one can charge anything you want for shipping/handling and not be in violation of the rules.  I can make all my packages a flat $10 and not be in violation of Ebay rules, while if someone else charges $3 and says a buck is there for covering Paypal fees, they are busted.  As for handling fees, Ebay/Paypal seems to condone it, as on their invoices shipping prices are noted as below (taken from an actual Paypal payment I received today):

Subtotal $9.99 USD
Shipping & Handling: $4.50 USD (includes any seller handling fees)
Shipping Insurance (optional): $1.50 USD

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