Split this from silliest auction price thread.

mhdavis999 wrote:I always leave feedback to a buyer when his part of the transaction is complete (ie time of payment).  I only wish some of the buyers out there would take the time to leave feedback, or at least let a seller know why he might not be leaving feedback in the event there is some problem that needs to be resolved.

How does anyone get their numbers to a point of discernable validity, with so many deadbeat buyers / sellers out there???

BigSister wrote:I have taken to adding the line "I'll leave feedback for you after you leave feedback." to the payment notice.  They get the item but no feedback until they leave some feedback first.  It's a shame it requires these tactics!  And maybe they don't care about 'discernable validity' -- that's the scarry part!!!

OK, the view from the other side of the fence.  I am stingy leaving feedback, I need to receive good service prior to leaving positive feedback.  i.e. if I am charged $4.00 for shipping and I receive the item in a plain manila envelope with the postage marked $1.74, I am not going to leave any feedback.  More often than not items I receive are poorly packaged and/or excessive postage was charged.

So ... are we saying sellers should always leave feedback once payment is received, and buyers should usually refrain from leaving feedback unless they are 110% satisfied?  In the long-term, that doesn't seem very likely to improve the situation.  Rather, it sounds like it exacerbates it - why should sellers leave fair feedback if they will probably not receive fair feedback in return?

darkseraphim wrote:So ... are we saying sellers should always leave feedback once payment is received, and buyers should usually refrain from leaving feedback unless they are 110% satisfied?  In the long-term, that doesn't seem very likely to improve the situation.  Rather, it sounds like it exacerbates it - why should sellers leave fair feedback if they will probably not receive fair feedback in return?

Sellers should always leave (positive) feedback once payment is received.  Buyers should always leave (positive) feedback once the item is received.  Unfortunately this a) isn't reality b) defeats the purpose of positive feedback.  

I'm of the opinion that unless something truly magical happens, one should leave 'neutral' feedback (I don't slap the grocer on the back and shout A+ Seller! everytime I pick up some apples)...but if I started to do this people on Ebay would probably get upset pretty quickly.  Btw, darkseraphim, you ARE an A+ seller.  

harami2000 wrote:2 cents, again.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the reason for selling was $, not a "nicer color of star"??

Very true -- but customer perception is also important.  This being a matter of trust,  I want buyers to feel comfortable purchasing from me and that is where the number of transactions & good satisfaction rating become important  -- at least to me.  I'm seller Storbakken, and its taken me awhile to build my number -- and I find it irritating when I have boxed, insured, mailed a package and left positive feedback --  and never hear a word.  I know it got there -- I pay for tracking.  All this for 50¢ over USPS rates!  

Some gripes are legitimate -- I've had some both as a buyer and seller   -- but I have found that an email takes care of most of them.  Let sellers know when [& why] you are unhappy.  With holding feedback will not warn future customers about bad sellers nor incourage sellers to change irritating overcharges/shoddy packaging.  And I'm STILL naive enough to think most people want to please others.

Would you have paid $3000+ for DCSIII art from Storbakken 67/100%
or felt more comfortable with Stormber 437/99.5% ??