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Mercenary_Roadie
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Has anybody seen these type of die-cut dungeon floor pieces before? Any idea who made then or what the correct description is?

They are made of white card stock. About the thickness of a post card, maybe a little less. Printed on one side only.

The individual squares are 2" x 2"

There are little white plus sign spaced evenly on the floor pieces.

These are from circa 1980.

The samples in the picture are just random ones that I pick out.


Badmike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I have a set of those....bought them in the early 80s.  They came in handy in the pre-Dwarven Forge era!

I think they were called Dungeon Tiles IIRC.....

Mike B.
JZavoda
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I can think of a number of possibilities but I'll have to check some boxed sets. Games Workshop made floor plans and Standard games (probably just to name a few)
grodog
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Looks like the Heritage sets I have.
Aneoth
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

For the Games Workshop Dungeon Floor Plans:

I have complete uncut sets of one, two and three and a cut but complete set of four.

I also have another copy of each of the first three sets, but the sheets in those boxes are mostly cut.

The items shown in your post are unlike any of the various items on any of the sheets from the box sets I have.

The GW sets sheets do have X's, but the X's on the GW sheets are MUCH larger than your example shows, and while some of the GW X's are white, many others are darker.
(Based I think, on the physical man-made structures or natural structures in the area of the X's)
i.e. on top of buildings, the X's are black, while in caverns and on water, the X's are white, and in grassy areas, they are a shade of gray.

The GW sets I have are copyrighted starting in 1979, through 1984.
Set Four is the highest numbered GW Dungeon Floor Plans set that I know of; However, there could be other GW Dungeon Floor Plans sets that I am not aware of.
JohnGaunt
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
grodog wrote:
Looks like the Heritage sets I have.

They look similar to this Heritage set (on which I must bid), but they are not as detailed:

. . . http://cgi.ebay.com/Heritage-Dungeon-Floors-Box-Set-Uncut-Rare-Old-D-D _W0QQitemZ180265055627
mandalaymoon
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Those are definitely the Heritage Dungeon Floors, and I think they're the best of the early sets.  I'm auctioning my uncut box set, but keeping my well-loved and worn set from my youth to the grave.
Mercenary_Roadie
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

If these are Heritage USA Dungeon Floors, I'll never be able to prove it.

They definitely don't look like mandalaymoon box set.

I sat down and looked at each and every tile and can see no markings of any type that might lead to a manufacture. OH well.

If these originally came with an instruction sheet, I am sure I would still have it, but I don't.

Bummer.
Aneoth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
Mercenary_Roadie wrote:
If these are Heritage USA Dungeon Floors, I'll never be able to prove it.

They definitely don't look like mandalaymoon box set.

I sat down and looked at each and every tile and can see no markings of any type that might lead to a manufacture. OH well.

If these originally came with an instruction sheet, I am sure I would still have it, but I don't.

Bummer.


The picture you have in your first post looks ike a composite of several seperated pieces, was it not?

What I mean is that it does not look like a complete uncut sheet, but a lot of cut pieces that were placed on a paper and scanned, or photgraphed.
serleran
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

They are damn near the Heritage ones, especially that pentagram image... but it is not exact.
Mercenary_Roadie
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

The auction set has a lot more colour and shading to them to make them more 3D looking.

Mine have no shading and no real colour except basic shades of gray.

The pentagrams look similar, but open both images in separate windows and bounce back and forth between them and you will see that the Heritage one is different in many ways.

Mine appear to be the original basis for the Heritage tiles or mine are a poor version of the heritage ones.

I think I can safely say that my tiles are not the same as the Heritage USA Dungeon Floor tiles in the eBay auction.



Did anything I just wrote make sense to anybody? I think I just confused my self
Mercenary_Roadie
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
Aneoth wrote:


The picture you have in your first post looks ike a composite of several seperated pieces, was it not?

What I mean is that it does not look like a complete uncut sheet, but a lot of cut pieces that were placed on a paper and scanned, or photgraphed.



Yes that is what I did.

I just grabbed a random sample and placed them on my scanner bed.

The only editing that I did was to make the image smaller and save it as a JPG file
Mercenary_Roadie
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

mandalaymoon

How thick is the card stock that your Dungeon floors are printed on?

The ones that I have measure less then a 1/32" thick
mandalaymoon
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

The Heritage Dungeon Floors measure 1/16 inch thickness.  Let me compare your scans to the uncut sheets to see the exact differences.
mandalaymoon
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:06 am Reply with quote Back to top

You guys are right, they're definitely different.  At first glance, I thought they were the same because there are striking similarities but even a cursory comparison shows they're different.
Badmike
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

ARRRRGH!  I have this exact set in a plastic baggie in my "dungeon" box, I still use it for gaming.  I have no memory of what the original set was...but I have a recollection it didn't come in a box, but in some kind of plastic bag, and ou had to cut/seperate them.  Definitely not the Heritage.

Mike B.
lawrenson
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi,

pretty sure its not Workshop.

Cheers,
Malc
Mars
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

To put an end to this unsolved mystery.  I think they are the Heritage ones but earlier than the boxed set mandalaymoon auctioned off.  Here's a pic of the earlier set:

http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1572

Also interesting that Heritage Dungeon Floors later became Genesis Dungeon Floors.
Mercenary_Roadie
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
Mars wrote:
To put an end to this unsolved mystery.  I think they are the Heritage ones but earlier than the boxed set mandalaymoon auctioned off.  Here's a pic of the earlier set:

http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1572

Also interesting that Heritage Dungeon Floors later became Genesis Dungeon Floors.


BINGO.

Thanks Mars,

I searches the Tomes of Treasures site for for all of the different Manufacturer's names that were supplied to me here and on Dragonsfoot. I missed this post some how

Again thank you Mars
JohnGaunt
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
Mercenary_Roadie wrote:
BINGO.

Is tfm the eBayer known as The Fantasy Museum?
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