Ebay policy changes

Posts: 1002 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:39 am

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/19304/1103/

Also it should be noted that in Australia at least,That’s because PayPal does indeed “have a banking license and is regulated under Australian banking laws”, with Feiler quoted saying: “Anyone with a complaint about the PayPal dispute resolutions process can take it to the banking and financial services ombudsman and have that third party review the case.”

Now I don't know what sort or protection you have in the States if its any different, but would you be covered under Aussie law if you paid your payment through the aussie paypal site insteat of the american one?

Brette:)

Posts: 406 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:51 am

Hey Mike - You've been told! Don't do it again! In fact, I'd like to make a helpful suggestion to make your life easier - how about free shipping? Oh go on! Volunteer, that way it won't have to be made compulsory further down the line.

Posts: 1736 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:55 am

FormCritic wrote:

Badmike

Remember that Europe is now the place where regions are trademarks.

You cannot sell burgundy that does not come from Burgundy.

You cannot sell cheddar that does not come from Cheddar.

No surprise an American company automatically loses a court case in France...much less one involving perfumes and handbags.

Europe is not really about free trade at the moment.

Hey Mark, while I am not sympathetic to this decision by the French courts, I think that this is probably much more about companies which specialise in exclusive goods trying to stop ebay selling them, than Europe, a diverse continent, being anti-trade, or anti-American.

I took care when posting on off-topic threads that concerned the US over the last week – to not label the US as a monolithic country where everyone is the same, and one attitude prevails. I did that because it is right, and also because I assumed that the US Acaeum posters would do the same when referring to other countries. ...

Besides, I know you love us Europeans really Very Happy

Posts: 1736 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:00 am

Badmike wrote:

Well Europe yes, but France in particular. They have limits on how many foreign items are allowed to be sold, as well as lists on foreign movies, music, books, etc that area allowed in (there is a quota system in place). Interestingly, they put NO limit on tourists to their country because of course we spend our filthy american money when we get there for overpriced crap at sidewalk cafes served with glacial slowness.... Rolling Eyes

Mike B.

Do we have any French Acaeum members?

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:58 am

red_bus wrote:

Besides, I know you love us Europeans really Very Happy

I'd French kiss a French chick if she shaved her pits beforehand.....

Mike B.

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:02 pm

red_bus wrote:

Do we have any French Acaeum members?

At least two I believe that post regularly....

I still don't see why cultural quotas like these have to be inforced. I know I'm spoiled by living in America, where we not only welcome every culture on earth but steal their language, food, architecture, customs and basketball players...but is French culture really on that fragile a footing that it has to have government watchdogs make sure too many Bon Jovi CDs don't get sold?

Mike B.

Posts: 1179 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:49 pm

Mike,
It is not just France. Canada has laws to protect "Canadian Culture".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content

That link is mainly for music, movies and television.

We also have laws for the import of magazines. American publishers have circumvented that by printing a Canadian edition of each of their issues.

So the Time magazine that lands on your newsstands is completely different from the Canadian version.

We keep seeing endless reruns of shows like Stargate because it was filmed in Canada. Back in the 1990's for awhile, on our local channels I think X-files was on every night of the week because it also filmed in Canada.

Posts: 4704 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:12 pm

Bon Jovi CD's shouldn't be allowed in ANY country. They fall under the guidelines for Infectious Diseases; too much chance of them spreading to the general populace.

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:47 pm

jasonw1239 wrote:

Mike,
It is not just France. Canada has laws to protect "Canadian Culture".

Protect Canadian culture...?

So....many jokes about back bacon....and moose......and Mounties....filling head....cannot come up with wacky reply....ARGGGGH!

Very Happy

Mike B.

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:56 pm

jasonw1239 wrote:

Mike,
It is not just France. Canada has laws to protect "Canadian Culture".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content

That link is mainly for music, movies and television.

We also have laws for the import of magazines. American publishers have circumvented that by printing a Canadian edition of each of their issues.

So the Time magazine that lands on your newsstands is completely different from the Canadian version.

We keep seeing endless reruns of shows like Stargate because it was filmed in Canada. Back in the 1990's for awhile, on our local channels I think X-files was on every night of the week because it also filmed in Canada.

'

This part cracked me up....

Quote:

Some musicians and critics charge that radio stations tend to fulfil their Canadian content quotas by playing "safe" choices, i.e. well-established artists such as Shania Twain, The Tragically Hip or Bryan Adams, to the exclusion of emerging artists. In fact, artists who are not established are sometimes forced to build an audience outside Canada before Canadian radio will play them, the very thing the Canadian content rules were designed to remedy.

I always wondered why The Tragically Hip sold so many millions of records, because they blow harder than a monsoon. It all makes sense now.....! Very Happy

Canada needs to toss out this protectionism, they don't need it, and frankly showing shows like "X-Files" and "Stargate" don't improve or help Canadian culture one bit. I'm amazed in this world where the internet is ubiquitous anyone even thinks this will work anymore...

I was amused by the references to a horrific sitcom called "The Trouble with Tracy" made to fill Canadian content guidelines.....any of you north of the border seen an episode? Was it really the worst sitcom of all time? Very Happy

Mike B.

Posts: 128 · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:59 pm

Has everybody else noticed that eBay is backtracking on many of their policy changes.

The latest is the links policy. The have scrapped the new policy and reinstated the old one.

Posts: 342 · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:05 pm

Mercenary_Roadie wrote:

Has everybody else noticed that eBay is backtracking on many of their policy changes.

The latest is the links policy. The have scrapped the new policy and reinstated the old one.

I wish they'd scrap this feedback policy. What is the purpose of leaving buyers feedback? It can only be positive.

What I'd want to see is a list of how many times a buyer didn't pay or payed late or what kind of feedback they leave.

Posts: 128 · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:15 pm

What I would like to see is how many transaction the seller or buyer where involved in and then you could compare that to the number of feedback's that they have received.

To me feedback by it's self means nothing. You need to be able to compare it to the tot al purchases or sales to get a true picture.

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:16 pm

Mercenary_Roadie wrote:

Has everybody else noticed that eBay is backtracking on many of their policy changes.

The latest is the links policy. The have scrapped the new policy and reinstated the old one.

I think I noted this elsewhere, but Ebay's stock is in the toilet right now. It's dropped $20 a share from their high of last year, and has dropped $10 in the last month. They have had a low recently and flirted with their all time low on Friday before it rallied. I think upper management has concluded that with the shape of the economy now is not the time for wholesale changes. On top of that Ebay live was held recently and I suspect Ebay bigwigs took an earful from pissed off sellers who attended the conference.

Even more interesting, Ebay cancelled their annual Ebay Live in 2009 after the 2008 conference....either costs are getting them down, or they suspected even more vocal and disgruntled sellers next year.By all the accounts I've read, this year's Ebay live was a bonafide disaster, with tons of empty seats, unfilled seminars, and cavernous exhibit halls with only glum vendors walking around with no one to talk to. If you want a giggle, go to You Tube and put in Ebay Live 2008 to see some of the most unintentionally funny sights ever.......

I think it was Xax who said it.....the 2008 decisions from ebay will go down in history and be taught in future business economics and development courses as a blueprint for how to destroy a thriving business. They have come as close to killing the goose that laid the golden egg as anyone since New Coke.

EDIT: I just watched a few more....wow. The Ebay reps get hammered by pissed off sellers....I actually started to feel sorry for the unfortunate reps that got sent out into the lions den to get chewed up and spit out. Sad

Mike B.

Posts: 159 · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:33 pm

Badmike wrote:

I was amused by the references to a horrific sitcom called "The Trouble with Tracy" made to fill Canadian content guidelines.....any of you north of the border seen an episode? Was it really the worst sitcom of all time? Very Happy

Mike B.

Mike, I agree with you about the whole concept of CANCON: Canadian Content. The argument has never been proven. We're exposed every type of American media and we're still a distinct culture. Don't get me on the Tragically Sad.

"The Trouble with Tracy:" this was by far the most horrific, godawful show ever produced, written and acted. There is nothing, and I mean nothing, that can match it. Very Happy

Please don't tell me it's available on DVD....

Posts: 128 · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:41 pm

2009 is going to be an even bigger disaster in my opinion.

Next year is when they are going to ban most scripting, which means a lot of very useful listing tools are going to be useless (ClicPic for example).

Posts: 109 · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:22 am

I thought this was interesting after it sent chills down my spine. Thank you for making things even worse on the sellers ebay. Now I have to worry about other sellers ruining my DSR's? Awesome.

Ebay under the Buyer Accountability thread:
"Proactively looking for abuse and taking action against it: An incident that occurred recently best illustrates our efforts. A seller used a separate "buying" account to purchase from his competitors. He left positive Feedback but low DSRs in an attempt to lower his competitor's standing in search results. We identified this abuse via a reporting system which flags buyers who leave positive Feedback but low DSRs. We immediately took action by removing the low DSRs and suspended both of the seller's accounts."

Rolling Eyes

Posts: 1736 · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:43 am

Ebay UK have informed me that the new search (i.e. the shit-search) will be implemented as standard across ebay.co.uk at the end of August. No more opting out for us over here. Rolling Eyes

Posts: 342 · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:15 am

red_bus wrote:

Ebay UK have informed me that the new search (i.e. the shit-search) will be implemented as standard across ebay.co.uk at the end of August. No more opting out for us over here. Rolling Eyes

That probably means the same for everyone worldwide. The new search system has not been letting me fine tune my searches. (Although I managed to reset my system, get rid of the cookies from ebay and have had the chance of opting out each time, though it has been opting me in every other day).

I will try to exclude words and sellers. For example I am not into miniatures so I exclude that word from my RPG seach, but I also want to exclude a few of the bigger sellers who post hundreds of items I'll never buy and item locations that would push the shipping costs beyond what I'd pay, but it won't let me do all three. Or it hadn't been.

The worst case is trying to seach through fiction books. The don
t have subheadings, they have categories. Everything is dumped under Books, fiction with around 300,000 listings, then you can go to a category such as fantasy. But with the new search when I try to exclude a seller or word it takes me out the category and back to the monstorusly huge, Books, Fiction. And this is the search engine they are trying to force everyone to use. Why? How do they see this as an improvement?

Has anyone here had a GOOD experience with the new search engine?

Posts: 44 · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:28 am

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but I just hit upon a new ebay feedback policy. (at least it's new to me) I went to leave a powerseller neutral feedback (totally justified mind you) and got this message:

"You cannot leave negative or neutral Feedback for this PowerSeller within 7 days of the transaction. In the mean time, email the seller or request additional contact information, such as a phone number, to resolve any issues."

WTF??? So I guess this means if you are a powerseller, you have some kind of temporary immunity from neutral and/or negative feedback? This seems like a very twisted policy. Ebay wants us to leave feedback. When I go to do so, it prevents me from doing so. Then it puts up this roadblock. All this policy does is annoy me and make me want to turn my neutral into a negative, in six days from now. Giving me seven days is not going to change my mind or make me contact the seller. They deserve at least a neutral and they are going to get it.

More and more, I'm thinking that all the previous people are right about ebay. Anyone else get hit with this lame policy?