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HermitFromPluto
JG Valuation Board


Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

I hope you don't mind me making a thread of this tdewey!

That was an interesting lot of auctions our friend tdewey just ran. A lot of them seemed to be price records. For example:

Wraith Overlord - $54.71
Pegasus 2 - $25.00
2nd print, Revised City State - $80.00
1st print, Wilderlands of the Fantastic Reaches - $92.99!

and more

Was this just a noob phenomenon or are we starting to see Judges Guild making its mark as a collectible?
Do you think this subweb is playing a part is drawing people's attention to JG as a collectible?
Plaag
Subweb Admin


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Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

Possibly the time of year people have more to spend.
Course I'd not down play the site as I've seen it mentioned more and more. Not to mention being listed in print at the back of the Free RPG day Tell Qa Smile

ShaneG.
killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector


Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Last Visit: 19 Dec 2008
Posts: 7612
Location: Warrington, UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

i think its just cool to see that some of the JG stuff is becoming a known collectable item.

Al
serleran
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Joined: 31 May 2007
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
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Location: New York

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow, and I thought paying $60 for a revised 2nd print of CSIO was high. Whew!

Makes me wish I was a seller, but I don't have the inventory.
obiter
JG Valuation Board


Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 325
Location: North Down, Northern Ireland

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That was a really great auction

There seems to be a definite upturn. great news for all you muckers holding stock; Al et alt.

I'm sure the site has had an impact. I'd need to check but a few of the recent auctions have very quickly moved up to the site value before creeping up later.

On the flip side there are still a few absolute bargains out there.
leadjunkie
JG Valuation Board


Joined: 26 Aug 2004
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 180
Location: Nevada, TX

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
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Do you think this subweb is playing a part is drawing people's attention to JG as a collectible?

When I see sellers listing items incorrectly or incomplete or making comments like I don't know anything about this item, I send them an eBay e-mail directing them to this site.  I have had more than one seller thank me for that tip.
HermitFromPluto
JG Valuation Board


Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

That is a good point. I have noticed that. A lot more Sellers are listing JG stuff correctly and linking to the Acaeum. The downside of this of course is it is going to be harder to find those bargains where the Seller doesn't know what they are listing!!!

But I also feel that the subweb is bringing a lot more attention and respectability to JG cheers
killjoy32
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Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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Location: Warrington, UK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
HermitFromPluto wrote:
That is a good point. I have noticed that. A lot more Sellers are listing JG stuff correctly and linking to the Acaeum. The downside of this of course is it is going to be harder to find those bargains where the Seller doesn't know what they are listing!!!

But I also feel that the subweb is bringing a lot more attention and respectability to JG cheers


well that was something i was always hoping it would do, with the task shane undertook. a lot of folk are very ignorant of JG products and from a collectable point, i still think they are very cool as they are just as old as D&D products.

but hey thats life. the more aware you make folk of something, the less chance of finding what you want cheap. you cant have everything.

pretty pleased though that JG stuff is getting a much higher promotion these days.

Al
Prufrock
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Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 495
Location: Indianapolis

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

I can tell you the reason behind the "Wraith Overlord" price.  I am going in for back surgery in early November and I will be layed up for 4 to 6 weeks after the surgery.  So I placed a bid the would not lose as I wish to have this mod to read during my recovery.

Do you guys believe the bid is out of line?  Be honest.  I do not know.  I've seen this mod go in the 40's.  

Cannot wait to get it.

Thanks
Martin
sauromatian
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Last Visit: 25 Jun 2008
Posts: 508
Location: Far Harad, Texas

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
Prufrock wrote:
I can tell you the reason behind the "Wraith Overlord" price.  I am going in for back surgery in early November and I will be layed up for 4 to 6 weeks after the surgery.  So I placed a bid the would not lose as I wish to have this mod to read during my recovery.

Do you guys believe the bid is out of line?


Your purchase appears to be a sacrifice to the deities of medicine. Offerings to the gods are supposed to be magnanimous, hoping for a favorable divine magnanimity in return, so yes, I think it's fitting.

Slaughtering three white doves to Asclepius immediately before the surgery would be more effective, but most modern hospitals would disallow it.
Plaag
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Joined: 08 Nov 2002
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
Prufrock wrote:
I can tell you the reason behind the "Wraith Overlord" price.  I am going in for back surgery in early November and I will be layed up for 4 to 6 weeks after the surgery.  So I placed a bid the would not lose as I wish to have this mod to read during my recovery.

Do you guys believe the bid is out of line?  Be honest.  I do not know.  I've seen this mod go in the 40's.  

Cannot wait to get it.

Thanks
Martin


Is a good price for an uncommon item.

ShaneG.
Plaag
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
leadjunkie wrote:

When I see sellers listing items incorrectly or incomplete or making comments like I don't know anything about this item, I send them an eBay e-mail directing them to this site.  I have had more than one seller thank me for that tip.


I've done the same and gotten similar reactions. Smile

ShaneG.
Kingofpain89
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Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 2556
Location: Plano, Texas

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
HermitFromPluto wrote:
I hope you don't mind me making a thread of this tdewey!

That was an interesting lot of auctions our friend tdewey just ran. A lot of them seemed to be price records. For example:

Wraith Overlord - $54.71
Pegasus 2 - $25.00
2nd print, Revised City State - $80.00
1st print, Wilderlands of the Fantastic Reaches - $92.99!

and more

Was this just a noob phenomenon or are we starting to see Judges Guild making its mark as a collectible?
Do you think this subweb is playing a part is drawing people's attention to JG as a collectible?


I dont want to be seen as "Mr. Negativity" but IMHO, some of these prices seem to be an abberation.  Specifically with the Wilderlands and the Revised City State.  Several of those auctions were bid up by a couple of very new Ebay members including dragonesque1.   I didnt think the Wraith Overlord price was excessive but Prufrock is on some serious medication.  Wink

Regardless of anything else, the price on the Revised CSIO was freakishly high.  I just won this one back in July for $29:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170131273530

The pictures are gone but suffice to say it was very minty.

Maybe I am just being whiny because it has gotten very difficult to get some of the more popular Judges Guild items lately.  Tegel Manor has traditionally been one of the higher priced modules but the auction prices have been skyrocketing lately.  I honestly blame the "shrew encounter" for the higher than normal Tegel prices over the last two months.  Every Tegel auction I have seen lately has the same four or five Acaeum members bidding the price up along with a handful of non-Acaeum members in the mix.  Probably so they can run the module for their group and have their own "shrewfest".  Rolling Eyes

If this goes for more than $10...I will shoot someone...with a potato bazooka....I swear.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Under-the-Storm-Giants-castle-RPG-Dungeons-Dragons _W0QQitemZ180170144189QQihZ008QQcategoryZ44111QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

Very Happy
killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector


Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Last Visit: 19 Dec 2008
Posts: 7612
Location: Warrington, UK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

lol Smile

Martin - i didnt think the wraith price was too bad - little on the high side "maybe" but ok nonetheless in the current market. it is most definately an uncommon item and not "that" easy to find. sure if you sit and wait you will get one (like most things).

John - once i get back from oz, i will have a spare Tegel for you. i will speak to you when i get back, so don't go paying any silly amounts til i get back ok Smile unless you see one for a $20 BIN of course Very Happy

its cool to have a good healthy JG market and why not. there are some very cool items to be had and maybe this will tempt other nice pieces out of the woodwork in the process?

i have sold a lot of my rarer JG things privately to collectors and am glad i have, as i like to think putting them in a good home like that, preserves the item like it prb should be.

Al
Prufrock
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Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 495
Location: Indianapolis

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, KingofPain, I am on some serious Meds and should probably stop bidding on auctions, driving, and dancing with the big hairy spiders that talk to me at night.

Martin
tdewey10
Prolific Collector


Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Last Visit: 01 Dec 2007
Posts: 123

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
HermitFromPluto wrote:

Do you think this subweb is playing a part is drawing people's attention to JG as a collectible?


I was very surprised by the Pegasus, Thracia, Survival and CSIO bids.    CSWE also went for more than I thought it would.  I remain irrationally committed to the idea that that copy of the Wilderlands will end up being one of the level 5 JG rarities so the price isn't out of line -- but maybe tomorrow someone will find a box of the first ed with the no-booty list cover.  Overall I think JG items are increasing in D&D collectors awareness -- mostly becaue of Plagg & etc work on this site.

* * *
Anyway -- bad news for winners is that nothing ships until Tuesday.  I'm still in Austin and my wife is in Orlando.  She gets back home Monday night.  Apologies for the delay for those of you who have already paid.  I'll get invoices out today for those who need 'em.
stumbling tiger
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Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Last Visit: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 128
Location: Shanghai fun & friends!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
Prufrock wrote:
Yes, KingofPain, I am on some serious Meds and should probably stop bidding on auctions, driving, and dancing with the big hairy spiders that talk to me at night.

Martin


So you're the one that's been dancing with my spider -- I knew she was seeing somebody else!
That's what I get for dating a Tarantella!
Smile
sauromatian
Prolific Collector


Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Last Visit: 25 Jun 2008
Posts: 508
Location: Far Harad, Texas

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

How do you tell the original 70s-80s printings from the copious later reprints?
tdewey10
Prolific Collector


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Last Visit: 01 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
sauromatian wrote:
How do you tell the original 70s-80s printings from the copious later reprints?


Just look at the subweb photos/descriptions.  Or am I misunderstanding the question?
HermitFromPluto
JG Valuation Board


Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Last Visit: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 995
Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
Prufrock wrote:


Do you guys believe the bid is out of line?  Be honest.  I do not know.  I've seen this mod go in the 40's.  



Not at all. I am monitoring Wraith Overlord. It is only the second one I have seen this year! The other was a FN copy and went for $43. It is definitely one of the rarer JG items - so paying just over $50 is reasonable.
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