Shady Dealers

Posts: 1104 · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:23 pm

Today's story is called "Well, you better believe that's getting you some bad shipping time DSRs."

So I won a few items from adventuregamestore. Won them on the 28th of June to be exact, and was sent an invoice and paid for it the same day.

Today I got an email from them informing me because of the July 4th weekend they had only just shipped the item. The July 4th weekend that was a week and a half ago as well as being a week after I had paid for the items in the first place.

The email address looked familiar, and digging around it seems that this is a new account for dragonslairgamesfl (Check out those DSRs, folks!), who I had problems with in the past.* Had I known, I would have just skipped bidding on these in the first place.

* Won an item and was charged for a flat rate envelope. Item showed up a month and a half later in a manila envelope at a quarter the charged shipping cost. When I complained, I was told that it had been shipped out flat rate envelope -- despite the evidence I had sitting in front of me. Yeah, I was pissed.

Posts: 1432 · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:27 pm

g026r wrote:

Today's story is called "Well, you better believe that's getting you some bad shipping time on DSRs."

So I won a few items from adventuregamestore. Won them on the 28th of June to be exact, and was sent an invoice and paid for it the same day.

Today I got an email from them informing me because of the July 4th weekend they had only just shipped the item. The July 4th weekend that was a week and a half ago as well as being a week after I had paid for the items in the first place.

The email address looked familiar, and digging around it seems that this is a new account for dragonslairgamesfl (Check out those DSRs, folks!), who I had problems with in the past.* Had I known, I would have just skipped bidding on these in the first place.

* Won an item and was charged for a flat rate envelope. Item showed up a month and a half later in a manila envelope at a quarter the charged shipping cost. When I complained, I was told that it had been shipped out flat rate envelope -- despite the evidence I had sitting in front of me. Yeah, I was pissed.

Thanks for the heads up warning.
Unfortunately I have already bid on and won several items from this seller.

Cant wait to see them all come in one manilla envlope all bent and crapped on...... Rolling Eyes

Posts: 1104 · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:32 pm

Aneoth wrote:

Thanks for the heads up warning.
Unfortunately I have already bid on and won several items from this seller.

Cant wait to see them all come in one manilla envlope all bent and crapped on...... Rolling Eyes

The item, from what I recall, wasn't actually in any worse condition than described. It was just their customer service that left a lot to be desired.

Hopefully they show up fine for you.

Posts: 109 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:33 am

Badmike wrote:

Which is why I charge for shipping..and still have a 4.6 in that category. Because the "free shipping" idea is a complete scam thrown out by ebay so they can make more money.....they make no money on shipping costs, and they know to protect their bottom line most sellers will up their item costs just a bit...which simply puts more money in Ebay's pocket. Free shipping.

To put it bluntly, I would lose more money with Free Shipping that I ever would by losing a discount I will never reach. That Jason doesn't have a 4.9 shipping is really pretty much what I expected out of the system, so I decided not to play the game. Ebay has rigged it so that they won't have to pay the discount, AND they will make money on the front end with your higher auction fees. Win-Win for them. No thanks for me!

More proof that it's a scam is that Ebay won't let you see what customers leave for their DSRs. If you can't retaliate with negs, why should this matter? Well, because if someone leaves low DSRs, you could still block them....and this would lead to less sales, and less money in Ebay's pocket. Otherwise, they'd let you know who is wrecking your discount and allow you to either block them or at least email them and ask them what you did wrong.

Mike B.

To put it bluntly, I would lose more money with Free Shipping that I ever would by losing a discount I will never reach.

Amen and Hurrah! The entire system is fixed so that feebay maximizes their own return. They don't give a hoot about the people that make the site work.

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:31 am

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZfunfearlssfemale

The above seller has some D&D items.....but I would avoid. I asked her if the supermodules had the mapbooks included, and her response was "I can't tell, sorry!" I would assume that means....no?

Mike B.

Posts: 2269 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:52 pm

Badmike wrote:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZfunfearlssfemale

The above seller has some D&D items.....but I would avoid. I asked her if the supermodules had the mapbooks included, and her response was "I can't tell, sorry!" I would assume that means....no?

I asked if they would ship to Canada Smile

Posts: 1432 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:08 pm

Badmike wrote:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZfunfearlssfemale

The above seller has some D&D items.....but I would avoid. I asked her if the supermodules had the mapbooks included, and her response was "I can't tell, sorry!" I would assume that means....no?

Mike B.

I asked her the same question again TWICE.
From two seperate Super modules listings.

Posts: 96 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:41 pm

Well, I had my problem resolved. If you recall, I purchased an Oriental Adventures book where some pages fell out of the book when I opened it, this defect was obviously not mentioned in the auction description. The seller never returned any of my emails, and I escalated it to PayPal. After 2 weeks, the seller did not reply to PayPal's inquiries either, and sure enough, I was refunded the amount I paid. Yay!!

Seems that if you're a seller, ignoring the problem just isn't a solution. PayPal seems to side on the buyer, at least in my case, with zero communication.

Zenfinite

Posts: 1276 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:57 pm

Yeah, if you have a problem and the seller doesn't communicate/respond, PayPal will give your money back -- I've had to do that three times in my limited experience using it, and each time, PayPal sided with me. It takes a little longer, but seems to be foolproof. I can say I like that.

Posts: 226 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:54 pm

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I asked if they would ship to Canada

Wonder what Canada ever did to her Crying or Very sad

Style

Posts: 226 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:00 pm

Quote:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZfunfearlssfemale

The above seller has some D&D items.....but I would avoid. I asked her if the supermodules had the mapbooks included, and her response was "I can't tell, sorry!" I would assume that means....no?

Mike B.

What she was really saying when asked about the mapbooks was "no mapbooks but I don't want to tell you that because you might not bid" Rolling Eyes

Nice set of DSR's, BTW Wink

Posts: 1432 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:18 pm

Zenfinite wrote:

Well, I had my problem resolved. If you recall, I purchased an Oriental Adventures book where some pages fell out of the book when I opened it, this defect was obviously not mentioned in the auction description. The seller never returned any of my emails, and I escalated it to PayPal. After 2 weeks, the seller did not reply to PayPal's inquiries either, and sure enough, I was refunded the amount I paid. Yay!!

Seems that if you're a seller, ignoring the problem just isn't a solution. PayPal seems to side on the buyer, at least in my case, with zero communication.

Zenfinite

Nice, and good on you for not giving in.

Posts: 4449 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:23 pm

napoleonsdad wrote:

What she was really saying when asked about the mapbooks was "no mapbooks but I don't want to tell you that because you might not bid" Rolling Eyes

Nice set of DSR's, BTW Wink

Bingo!

Thus the Shady Dealer's thread....

Mike B.

Posts: 2269 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:02 pm

napoleonsdad wrote:

Nice set of DSR's, BTW Wink

No kidding, it sounds like a bad pickup line: "Hey baby, you got a nice set of DSRs.".

Posts: 37 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:03 pm

g026r wrote:

Today's story is called "Well, you better believe that's getting you some bad shipping time DSRs."

So I won a few items from adventuregamestore. Won them on the 28th of June to be exact, and was sent an invoice and paid for it the same day.

Today I got an email from them informing me because of the July 4th weekend they had only just shipped the item. The July 4th weekend that was a week and a half ago as well as being a week after I had paid for the items in the first place.

The email address looked familiar, and digging around it seems that this is a new account for dragonslairgamesfl (Check out those DSRs, folks!), who I had problems with in the past.* Had I known, I would have just skipped bidding on these in the first place.

* Won an item and was charged for a flat rate envelope. Item showed up a month and a half later in a manila envelope at a quarter the charged shipping cost. When I complained, I was told that it had been shipped out flat rate envelope -- despite the evidence I had sitting in front of me. Yeah, I was pissed.

Not sure if you paid by credit card through Paypal on this, but if so, you can request a partial refund for shipping directly through your credit card company.

I had a similar problem with a seller named biddingbonanza (I believe they were FINALLY shut down), who shipped me out "flat rate" for two books (a DMG and a PHB), double-charging the shipping ($15 total) and then mailing them out together by Media Mail.

I went through the motions in both Paypal and Ebay disputes. Yet after almost two months of this REALLY obvious partial refund that Paypal could've issued for over-charging, they wouldn't resolve the dispute in my favor. Suffice it to say, I called up mastercard and they issued the refund immediately, especially since it was only for $10.

Hopefully that helps.

Mike.

Posts: 1104 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:17 pm

misterspock wrote:

Hopefully that helps.

Mike.

It's been far too long now, but I'll keep that in mind if it happens again. Smile

Posts: 2081 · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:25 pm

Zenfinite wrote:

Well, I had my problem resolved. If you recall, I purchased an Oriental Adventures book where some pages fell out of the book when I opened it, this defect was obviously not mentioned in the auction description. The seller never returned any of my emails, and I escalated it to PayPal. After 2 weeks, the seller did not reply to PayPal's inquiries either, and sure enough, I was refunded the amount I paid. Yay!!

Seems that if you're a seller, ignoring the problem just isn't a solution. PayPal seems to side on the buyer, at least in my case, with zero communication.

Zenfinite

Did you have to send the item back? I am having a similiar issue to this right now Mad

Posts: 4704 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:21 pm

We already know he's shady, but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeon-Master-Kit-35-1-Palace-of-the-Vampire-Quee n_W0QQitemZ280248998998QQihZ018QQcategoryZ2545QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

This is copyright infringement of the Acaeum's site, no?

Posts: 2081 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:58 pm

Deadlord39 wrote:

We already know he's shady, but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeon-Master-Kit-35-1-Palace-of-the-Vampire-Quee n_W0QQitemZ280248998998QQihZ018QQcategoryZ2545QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

This is copyright infringement of the Acaeum's site, no?

Kinda high starting bid?

Posts: 96 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:28 pm

Blackmoor wrote:

Did you have to send the item back? I am having a similiar issue to this right now Mad

Sorry I took so long to respond. No, I did not. They just flat refunded my money, probably because the guy didn't even bother to respond to them. Dunno what to do about that, kinda blows man.

Zen