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SoulCatcher78
Prolific Collector


Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 495
Location: Indiana, USA

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

It popped up again and I reported it again.  Not sure if it was the same user account though.  The disc was the same (down to the handwritten title).
HermitFromPluto
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Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Last Visit: 10 Mar 2010
Posts: 1547
Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

This Seller discussed above one month ago is expanding his operations.

http://shop.ebay.com/fpap1/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid= p4340

Now you can get Dune and Magic Realm on DVD plus many more titles.

Ebay Australia must think it is OK. I suppose anyone could buy them copy them and then sell them for less.
Bagger3158
Collector


Joined: 01 Oct 2009
Last Visit: 08 Oct 2009
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nothing is being done about the Avalon Hill pirating.  The General Magazine has been pirated by 3 or 4 individuals for over 5 years now.  

Plus the guys at ahgeneral.org have setup shop in Michigan and have been selling reproductions of games and magazines more than this seller in Austrailia for years.  There are others as well.   Hasbro has done nothing to defend its copyright on any of these Avalon Hill Titles.

My guess is the copyrights on the magazines are so messed up becasue ownership passed back to the original authors in some cases that Hasbro isn't trying to do anything.

By not defending there copyright the items will end up in the public domain anyways.
mbassoc2003
Long-Winded Collector


Joined: 03 Jan 2005
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 4264
Location: UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A user of copyrighted materials only needs to demonstrate that the copyright owner had a history of not defending it's copyright.

As an aside, I have heard rumour that Hasbro are open to offers on the licencing of 1E AD&D in it's entirity. While not surrendering IP ownership, there presumably is scope for a licensee to reprint, alter, amend, reproduce, market, and use the AD&D monikor. We're talking million dolar deal here, but surely doable by some organization or consortium. Any rumours like this in the US?
carrejo
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Joined: 26 Dec 2008
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 190
Location: Miami, Florida

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeon-Dragon-Ebooks-300-Guides-Manuals-Handbooks _W0QQitemZ120480855368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1 c0d37f548

Laughing
bujoojoo
Active Collector


Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Last Visit: 13 Dec 2009
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
carrejo wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeon-Dragon-Ebooks-300-Guides-Manuals-Handbooks _W0QQitemZ120480855368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1 c0d37f548

Laughing


ATTENTION EBAY: I HAVE RESELLERS RIGHTS
FormCritic
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Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 4843
Location: Washington State

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
carrejo wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeon-Dragon-Ebooks-300-Guides-Manuals-Handbooks _W0QQitemZ120480855368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1 c0d37f548

Laughing


Reported him.

I pointed out to Ebay that even if this guy used to work for TSR there is no way he has the right to resell electronic copies...not to mention somehow owning rights from multiple publishers.

His "I HAVE RESELLERS RIGHTS" thing just shows he knows what he is doing is illegal.
misterspock
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Joined: 25 Sep 2007
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 755
Location: Southwest

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
FormCritic wrote:


Reported him.

I pointed out to Ebay that even if this guy used to work for TSR there is no way he has the right to resell electronic copies...not to mention somehow owning rights from multiple publishers.

His "I HAVE RESELLERS RIGHTS" thing just shows he knows what he is doing is illegal.


I completely missed what was going on there...fill me in. Who was the seller?
RaisedFromTheDead
Grandstanding Collector


Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 5147
Location: New Hampsha

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I am guessing buttbooboo is, going by the "I HAVE RESELLERS RIGHTS" post.
carrejo
Prolific Collector


Joined: 26 Dec 2008
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 190
Location: Miami, Florida

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
FormCritic wrote:


Reported him.

I pointed out to Ebay that even if this guy used to work for TSR there is no way he has the right to resell electronic copies...not to mention somehow owning rights from multiple publishers.

His "I HAVE RESELLERS RIGHTS" thing just shows he knows what he is doing is illegal.


it was taken down, thanks for reporting it.
JasonZavoda
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Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 1240

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://cgi.ebay.com/DIVINE-RIGHT-supplement-pack-w-complete-MinarianLe gends_W0QQitemZ180431561800QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash= item2a028f2448

This guy even says in the description that he spent a lot of time at the copy machine making the photocopies.

He should just have picked up the Dragon CD and printed them from there.
FormCritic
Long-Winded Collector


Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 4843
Location: Washington State

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
JasonZavoda wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DIVINE-RIGHT-supplement-pack-w-complete-MinarianLe gends_W0QQitemZ180431561800QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash= item2a028f2448

This guy even says in the description that he spent a lot of time at the copy machine making the photocopies.

He should just have picked up the Dragon CD and printed them from there.


AND

your choice of one of the Dragon issues except for 34 and 46


Reported him.

Not only is his listing illegal, it is also tricky.  You can have one of the Dragon magazines pictured...but not one of the two he really likes!
misterspock
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Joined: 25 Sep 2007
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 755
Location: Southwest

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
FormCritic wrote:


AND

your choice of one of the Dragon issues except for 34 and 46


Reported him.

Not only is his listing illegal, it is also tricky.  You can have one of the Dragon magazines pictured...but not one of the two he really likes!


Wait, doesn't this guy have an account here on the Acaeum?
FormCritic
Long-Winded Collector


Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 4843
Location: Washington State

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
misterspock wrote:


Wait, doesn't this guy have an account here on the Acaeum?


Really?  Shocked

Should know better.
bujoojoo
Active Collector


Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Last Visit: 13 Dec 2009
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

   
RaisedFromTheDead wrote:
I am guessing buttbooboo is, going by the "I HAVE RESELLERS RIGHTS" post.


NO. I am not that seller. I also reported this person. I only posted that text from that auction because I thought it was patently absurd. I literally laughed out loud when I read that in the auction...

I am a programmer by trade and I know how hard it is to write and sell software and make any money off of it, and I absolutely respect the rights of all the wonderfully creative people out there that work long hours making my life more enjoyable. I don't copy and sell copyrighted materials and never will...
TheHistorian
Prolific Collector


Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 540
Location: The Library

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This seems like the most relevant thread in which to ask - what about authorized copies?

For a time, Columbia Games produced copies of some of their OOP Harn books.  These came with color maps (or color copies of maps - it varies).  I bought a collection that had a few of these, and as I've upgraded to originals, I've moved my copies into the extra/resell pile.

What are your thoughts on reselling these, assuming that I fully disclose what they are?

Also, that same collection had one unauthorized photocopy.  I would not resell it, but I might want to throw it in as a freebie with a purchase.  Is there a problem with that?
FormCritic
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Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 4843
Location: Washington State

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

Some of the Ebay sellers here will have to chime in on adding a photocopy of an item to the actual item.

A photocopy of an item you actually own is certainly OK to make and keep.
SoulCatcher78
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Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 495
Location: Indiana, USA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeons-and-Dragons-Gazetteer-Sourcebooks-pdf-on- CD_W0QQitemZ160381504799QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toys_RolePlaying_RL?hash =item25577b8d1f


Another compilation of .pdf files.
carrejo
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Joined: 26 Dec 2008
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 190
Location: Miami, Florida

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

this doesnt seem right...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeons-Dragons-4e-PDF-Collection-651MB_W0QQitemZ 260523428855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca8680bf7
JasonZavoda
JG Valuation Board


Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Last Visit: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 1240

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

   
carrejo wrote:
this doesnt seem right...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dungeons-Dragons-4e-PDF-Collection-651MB_W0QQitemZ 260523428855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca8680bf7


reported him for all the good it will do
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